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Jupiter as a Clock

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Double-A - 08 Jul 2008 19:11 GMT
Jupiter hanging on the southern horizion all night as it does now
provides a pretty good clock.  If it is over the electric poles to the
east, the night is young.  If it is over the poles to the west, dawn
is about to break.  The Sun provides a way to tell time in the day,
but the Moon moves around too much to be a good clock.  Jupiter is
excellent.

Double-A
Saul Levy - 08 Jul 2008 19:18 GMT
If you understood the phases better, DA, you could use the Moon just
as well.

Everything in the sky is a clock.

Saul Levy

>Jupiter hanging on the southern horizion all night as it does now
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>Double-A
Double-A - 09 Jul 2008 18:49 GMT
> If you understood the phases better, DA, you could use the Moon just
> as well.
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> Everything in the sky is a clock.
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> Saul Levy

True, but crescent moons either set early in the evening, or else
donl't rise until  nearly dawn.  Jupiiter is always up there all night
long.

Double-A

> >Jupiter hanging on the southern horizion all night as it does now
> >provides a pretty good clock.  If it is over the electric poles to the
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oldcoot - 09 Jul 2008 19:11 GMT
> > Everything in the sky is a clock.

What about Polaris?
Saul Levy - 09 Jul 2008 19:43 GMT
It holds for Polaris too, oldfart!  lmao!

Since Polaris is not exactly at the pole, it can be used to deterimne
local time.  Where is it now in it's arc around the pole?  Look that
up in a table for that purpose and you have the local time.

Some ephemeris books contain such tables.

Saul Levy

>> > Everything in the sky is a clock.
>>
>What about Polaris?
Double-A - 12 Jul 2008 19:01 GMT
> It holds for Polaris too, oldfart!  lmao!
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> Saul Levy

I was talking about sighting from a public park with no instrumenls,
and only the electric power poles to priivide gradiations.  Although,
I suppose you could say that the stars of the little dipper, whose
handle extends from polaris, could serve as the hour hand of a clock.

Right now, Jupiter is stuck in the spout of Saggitarius, God's teapot.

Double-A
Saul Levy - 12 Jul 2008 20:39 GMT
Jupiter is not stuck, DA.  It's still moving.

Saul Levy

>> It holds for Polaris too, oldfart!  lmao!
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>Double-A
Double-A - 14 Jul 2008 19:41 GMT
> Jupiter is not stuck, DA.  It's still moving.
>
> Saul Levy

And the glass in your window panes is still flowing.

Double-A

> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT), Double-A
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Saul Levy - 14 Jul 2008 20:23 GMT
No, it's not, DA!

I try never to look at astronomical objects through my window.  That
ruins the view.

Saul Levy

>> Jupiter is not stuck, DA.  It's still moving.
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>Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 08 Jul 2008 21:35 GMT
Double-A  Don't you have a radio? When sleeping in my van I keep a radio
going all the time. The batteries last a long time,and got real cheap.
It gives you the time all night long.    Jupiter is only good with a
clear sky.  Bert
Double-A - 09 Jul 2008 18:47 GMT
> Double-A  Don't you have a radio?

Yes, but they like to say only "3 minutes before the hour".  Most
night broadcasts are not local.

> When sleeping in my van I keep a radio
> going all the time. The batteries last a long time,and got real cheap.

I can get two 9v for a dollar at the Dollar Store.

> It gives you the time all night long.    Jupiter is only good with a
> clear sky.  Bert

Plenty of clear skies these nights.

Double-A
 
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