(rev 1.0.2) America Is Freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it (encl. {HRI 20060702-V3.4} 'REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against Humanity')
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Koos Nolst Trenite - 03 Jul 2008 06:48 GMT America Is Freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it.
But Criminal Minds - such as the ones I have pointed out to you, both here and by Islamic Fatwa (*) - Criminal Minds
have everything in reverse. So THEY shout, that "America is 'occupying Iraq'," and not freeing it.
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The truth that everyone can see, and has indeed seen, is not a matter of opinion, nor propaganda, but is the simple fact:
America is freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it.
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The following conclusion is inevitable as well, to anybody with a normal (not sick or 'al-Sadric' or otherwise Criminal, but a normal) mind.
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REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against Humanity, by the Sociopaths Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, Jiang Zemin, Zapatero, etc.
2 July 2006 {HRI 20060702-V3.4}
(Version 3.4 on 3 July 2008)
(Attachments are posted separately)
(Suitable for foreign language students)
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What I did read below, TO ME sounds like a very clear and massive indictment against (it is an official accusation of) those who could
and who were asked to - but who REFUSED TO -
END THE EVIL. (See Attachments 1. and 2.)
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It is an official and formal accusation of those who were, instead, ridiculing and calling those "evil," who were and are handling evil,
and calling those - calling you and me that is -
"evil" FOR handling the evil;
yes, they are so calling those,
who are willing to, and who at times did, give their life in order to stop the evil for us.
The soldiers there, like in World War II, give their life for our security, which is the consequence of their choice to serve and protect us,
much as it is my choice too, to protect you from those who inflict evil on you and your friends, on a global scale, by exposing and making the evil understood and recognizable to you
- the first and main and often sufficient condition for remedying and preventing it.
To then ACCUSE me (or the soldiers) of exposing themselves to mortal danger, is the typical Insanity we hear or read daily from those WHO DO NOT WANT EVIL STOPPED, but who want it to be hidden, and Criminal Minds not recognized.
Thus the Associated Press (of America) with its CEO Tom Curley, holds a daily tally NOT of soldiers' achievements, but of their deaths.
If I would complain of the mortal attacks on me or my body, then some people would "advise" me: 'Well, why don't you just stop caring for people? It's your own fault, that you get attacked...'
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How insane have you been made by Criminal Minds and by their parrots
(their parrots, sometimes Associated Parrots, like journalists who are relaying to you, what Criminal Minds want you to hear, but who fail at the same time to report the truth)?
Very, very insane - utterly insane indeed - well, not you and I of course, but others have been made, and are being made insane. *(3)
This is done to others by Criminal Minds - these have everything in reverse.
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Criminal Minds have everything in reverse. (I just repeat it so that, at some time, others are likely to notice it.)
They want you to see Evil as "normal."
And you must be made to "see" (to feel, to sense) Good as being "very, very bad."
They blame those who do Good, as "doing the evil," and
those who do the Evil, you are invited to treat as if THOSE are "normal," "right," "lawful," and "to be supported by you."
They cause you to have a stubborn grin, of "how right and strong of you it is," to not see Criminal Minds as these are, but to treat these as if they are "normal," and "to be taken as friends,"
AND, that "those who DO see Criminals as Criminals, 'are evil', 'hateful,' 'destructive of life'."
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They, Criminal Minds, make your mind be so, that
decent, caring people (they mean, that also you) "are evil," and that
you "are causing the harm," and that you "are causing the murdering" (they really do like to think that) *(6)
("A US military vehicle which attempted to approach the scene of the blast, withdrew in a hail of stones thrown by angry residents." - Baghdad - AFP, 20060701)
and they state that in their public speeches, in Friday Prayers of the Muslim community,
and they make it so, that they, the Criminals themselves,
and of course those who refuse to stop Criminals, including certain heads of state who support or who allow Criminals their evil,
are "the good people," or are "the normal heads of state," and are "the ones you better support, for your own good."
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That is, how utterly insane Criminal Minds have actually made you, now. (Have made others, I mean, of course, not you and me - WE always have a very precise viewpoint on who causes evil, and, on who protects us from evil - isn't it...)
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Not only did the individuals who stand now accused, like Putin, Chirac, and the like, REFUSE to stop Evil,
but they were also OBSTRUCTING others from handling the Evil,
even though it was their own job as head of state, directly to do all they could, to assist.
All, that some, like Putin (in Russia), Chirac (in France), Schroeder (in Germany) and Jiang Zemin (in China) and the others would have had to do, was
to say "Yes, I agree that YOU stop the Crimes,"
without themselves even having to do or to pay anything.
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But instead, they - Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, and Jiang Zemin, etc. - knowingly and deceptively committed those Crimes against Humanity, as are described in the previous paragraph.
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And I have to point it out to you, because it has been smashed and sucked out of your awareness, by the Criminals,
who are aided in that also by the parrots of various News Agencies, such as the Associated Parrots (AP) and the Agency of French Parrots (AFP), and the United Parrots International (UPI), and so on.
That is how utterly insane the Criminal Minds have actually made you, now. (That means: others, of course - not you and me, but others have been made utterly insane by Criminal Minds, insane about who caused the evil, and about those who enjoyed the evil and who perpetuated it.)
(Your and my awareness of that matter, of course, has been always correct, and we have held that always unwaveringly in our minds, isn't it - also for others to see and to feel the truth - of what actually happened, of what was done by whom, and of the intention with which it was done.)
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In order to refresh my and your awareness a little bit, I did read the Crimes again, that do form the basis of accusing those who refused to stop the Crimes, and who, instead, deceptively condoned and secretly encouraged these Crimes against Humanity,
which is the guilt of Putin, Chirac, Schroeder, Jiang Zemin (and now Hu Jintao), etc.,
THEIR GUILT SEVERELY AGGRAVATED BY THE FACT THAT IT WAS PART OF THEIR JOB TO BRING ABOUT GLOBAL SECURITY AND TO STOP CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY,
AND SEVERELY AGGRAVATED BY THE FACT, THAT THEY COULD VERY EASILY HAVE MOVED - BY MERELY APPROVING THAT OTHERS DO - TO STOP THE EVIL.
Instead, they preferred to have much damage and burden inflicted on others, seemingly "to aid their own group or position or Swiss and other bank accounts."
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It is PART OF THEIR JOB, to communicate to THEIR people, also and in particular to Islamic people in their country, what ACTUALLY IS going on,
- the Internet search engine providers and technical builders, like Google and Yahoo and Microsoft Network and the Cisco management, would certainly agree with that, and also the Eutelsat satellite broadcast providers would gladly assist to inform people correctly, isn't that so -
much like people are also informed CORRECTLY about a tsunami, or about the explosion of an atomic reactor, or about a severe earthquake, occurring in another country.
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And when talking to those who can only, or who have to think mainly, in terms of money (in terms of present and future possessions) the following is obvious to them:
You can not make a financially even vaguely sound decision, of course,
if half of the data, and the most important data, about a situation, or about a region, about a population, about people or about a country
is and remains deliberately hidden from you,
particularly when presented as "not hidden" - the typical way a Criminal Mind presents "data" -
for instance by China's News Agency, and by the Inverted or upside-down "government" of China, that it, 'Xinhua,' stands for.
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It is PART OF THE JOB OF LEADERS, to communicate to THEIR people, what ACTUALLY IS going on, so that people can and do react correctly, reacting indeed as is their inherent nature, reacting to care for life, to protect life and possessions.
Remember, however, that 'Criminal Minds have everything in reverse'
- THEY "know," that "it is the nature of people, to destroy others and to prey on others" - because that is THEIR OWN nature.
But in fact, it is only one percent of the population who is like that, and these, in times of anarchy, may drag another maybe twenty percent temporarily with them,
or when ORGANIZED (that is not anarchy, but it is evil steered and organized, also called "stability" by Criminals and by their parrots, tightly organized evil, as in Nazi Germany or in current Communist dictatorships)
it might rise temporarily, as still in North Korea, and in the past in Germany, and at one time long ago in Cuba, to above fifty percent
- in highly organized evil that means, as it is currently maintained and organized globally by the Chinese Communist Party "government," and not only in their slave states such as North Korea,
but their organized evil also includes their "diplomatic" corps etc. abroad, in your country and in other non-suspecting countries, I mean.
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Criminal Minds have everything in reverse, so they would just laugh very hard in your face - they would completely ridicule you, openly or secretly -
if you state, that it is PART OF THE JOB of leaders, to communicate to THEIR OWN people, what ACTUALLY IS going on so that people can and do react correctly,
indeed, reacting naturally (also as Moslems) to care for life,
which is made possible when they have correct data, INCLUDING correct data about who would or will hinder the help given,
which includes of course the exposure of Criminal Minds they falsely admire or admired (label all dictators plus the revolutionaries who brought them to power, not as "friends of 'the People'" and not as "friends of the Nation," but as what they are - severely destructive Criminal Minds).
Also you know, that Criminals do hide and distort and oppose that correct data,
and that they do foster Hate against those who do help naturally and who do help with great responsibility.
It is thus most vital, of course, to know whether data is coming from the Chinese News Agency Xinhua and from similar, Criminal News Agencies,
so that you know, that what you get as "correct data," is what Criminals want seen and known "as true."
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So that is yet another Crime against Humanity: As leaders they conspired to prevent their own population from being informed correctly, and they THUS PREVENT(ED) their OWN people from stopping very severe Crimes against Humanity.
And then they claim, that "they merely represent the will of the people" - Criminal Minds ENJOY lying.
Those are despicable Crimes, committed by the heads of state mentioned, Putin, Chirac, Schroeder, Jiang Zemin, etc., and by their respective successors who continued these Crimes against Humanity.
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Human Rights is not a matter of papers and laws,
although a lawyer, a judge, even a diplomat (yes, an occasional Minister for Immigration even) is likely to see it like that, inhumanely, as "people are papers," and such professionals are trained to "see" things through that distortion,
they are TRAINED NOT TO SEE, not to go and see whom they have in front of them, or to deliberately ignore it, even when they DO see whom they have in front of them,
instead, they talk about "what is 'legal' and 'lawful' and 'agreed upon'"
- not wanting to admit, that those are the very tools that Criminal Minds use
(they have everything in reverse, remember - so it is 'laws' and 'rules' and 'agreements,' forming a basis, an instrument,
WITH THIS SIMPLE TRICK, THEY SUDDENLY HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES, AND THOUSANDS OF JUDGES, AND MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS "ON THEIR SIDE," OR AT LEAST UNDER THEIR COMMAND,
that THEY use)
in order to deceive and to betray and to mislead people - *(4)
translated into German (and also into 'Swiss') as "'Ordnung muss sein'," as "laws are senior to people" -
"rules are senior to people" in Germany, they can not simply face or they refuse to face the PURPOSES for the rules, because then they would have to stand up to Criminal Minds,
and to them, "laws and rules and agreements are 'THE SOLUTION' to having to face Criminal Minds,"
they are (still) obsessed by 'having solutions' - instead of enjoying life together which INCLUDES looking at people and facing Criminal Minds and Destructive Cowards - *(6)
they are allowing, they are even encouraging
- as the Criminal Mind Socrates defended his own hidden lies and his hidden cowardice, at his death,
that's basically what he said in order NOT to have his own lies discovered (but which I discovered in my present life time, that)
to HIDE his lies, he then claimed the very, very destructive lie, that
"the laws are senior to people" -
encouraging and justifying laws and rules to be used to DESTROY life and TO DENY AND OPPOSE TRUTH from being exposed and acted upon,
they are denying - remember, that Criminal Minds have everything in reverse (they are DENYING) - that those very laws and rules are there in the first place FOR people, to help people who should be helped, and also to deny help to people who would destroy others,
- and that applies also to Louise Arbour's Human Rights Council, etc. -
so, Human Rights IS NOT 'papers and laws,'
but Human Rights is about people, about individuals, as you will read below.
You also did not need laws and bilateral agreements in order to help others at Earthquakes or Tsunamis, did you.
You naturally help. You help, because it is your FEELING, it is your nature, and so it is with all normal people.
But also there, Criminal Minds will try to divert or block your help from reaching those people who need it.
And they will try to make you accept their lies, their reversals of truth and their 'Buddhistic' goals to eradicate you forever, "so you never have to suffer again":
Telling the world, that 'freeing you from a torture cell in Husseins' Iraq,' "is illegal," that "everybody is against freeing you," and that "it is evil to free you."
Criminal Minds, also those of Buddhism, have everything in reverse.
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What was happening in Iraq, and what is happening now in China, and in some other dictatorial countries,
is a million times worse than any natural disaster,
as a natural disaster lacks the intention and practice of malice.
(See Attachments 1. and 2. below)
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This is about helping people,
and thus it is about your facing THE CRIMINALITY of those who obstruct and who refuse to cooperate *(5)
in handling very, very severe Crimes against very many people.
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The claim of the licensed medical profession of being "the ones that ARE helping people," is a carefully built fallacy (a facade, a building of lies) *(1) and you will find,
after you have shed the appropriate amount of tears and have gone though various stages and outbursts of amazement and utter incredulity when you look at and are about to understand what you see,
that the licensed medical profession is NOT about facing Criminality, at all. *(2)
You remove such obstructive people from any position of authority, and you oppose and deny their claims of being authoritative, as they clearly are only pretending to be so.
(See Attachments 1. and 2. below)
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It is your natural desire to help people, so, do so! Maybe you will even get the idea - who knows - to help me,
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Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity" human rights philosopher and poet
'Men of all nations came to listen to Solomon's wisdom, sent by all the kings of the world, who had heard of his wisdom.'
1 Kings 4:34
_________ Footnotes:
(*) 'First International Law on Islamic countries - Fatwa (Islamic Decision) on some known Islamic demons: Saddam Hussein, Khomeini, Yasser Arafat, Khamenei, Bashar al-Assad, Ahmadinejad, Muqtada al-Sadr, Manouchehr Mottaki, Nasrallah, Haniyeh, Gaddafi, Omar al-Bashir, Mahathir Mohamad' {HRI 20070223-V3.0.1} (Version 3.0 on 4 Apr 2008) (23 February 2007 - Version 3.0.1 on 12 June 2008) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.british/msg/ 5560079c74f712ea (Version 3.0.1 was also posted as Version 3.0, on 12 June) http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/6d805561c184c7f8
(Footnotes updated only up to 29 June 2007)
(1) 'The Dan Brown Code - The Trillion Dollar Question' {HRI 20060610-V3.4} (10 June 2006 - Version 3.4 on 10 July 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/2721c03970946e56
(2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind' (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc
(3) 'Definition Of Insane - Relation To Humor' {HRI 20030205-V2.3.3} (5 Feb 2003 - Version 2.3.3 on 13 May 2007) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.martial-arts/msg/83cdfa7c46d584d1
(4) 'If Pilate Had Provided King Solomon's Justice...' {HRI 20041102-V1.3} (2 November 2004 - Version 1.3 on 2 Apr 2005) http://groups.google.com/group/human-rights-issues/msg/8a0076d89f741b32 http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/10e1d33aa5888fe3
(5) 'Kofi Annan, the typical "sane Criminal" - one who, to "maintain" a position (in the UN) protects and hides severe Criminals' {HRI 20060608-V1.1} (8 June 2006 - Version 1.1 on 9 June 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/cffc79dde74820cd
(6) 'Defining 'Destructive Coward' (Definition)' {HRI 20050610-V3.2.2} (10 June 2005 - Version 3.2 on 9 Sep 2006) (Version 3.2 (or 3.2.2) published on 17 (or 18) May 2007) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/4c3b304dfedd9f84 {HRI 20050610-V3.2.2.1} (published on 18 May 2007) http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/f6117566a8d4bd84
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__________ References:
'Intense Joy of Beautiful Hate - Emanating from Criminal Minds' {HRI 20060629-V4.1} (29 June 2006 - Version 4.1 on 1 Aug 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/f9acf8f938a4e5e6
'Sports, The Game of Not Facing Evil Individuals - The Beijing 2008 Olympic Games Boycott' {HRI 20060618-V1.4} (18 June 2006 - Version 1.4 on 23 June 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/a880bf1ba370b9e5
'Kofi Annan, the typical "sane Criminal" - one who, to "maintain" a position (in the UN) protects and hides severe Criminals' (8 June 2006 - Version 1.1 on 9 June 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/cffc79dde74820cd
'North-Korea is managed by the Chinese Criminal government as a front group for China, TO CREATE very costly trouble for you' (21 June 2006) (version for China's Great Wall) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.congress/msg/7f3a3f0fc6c10d03
'U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour is Destructively Insane by Definition of {HRI 20030205}' (23 June 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/4deee3dc894eaf0e
'China NOT A VALID MEMBER of the United Nations Organization (UN, UNO, ONU)' {HRI 20060429-V2.1.2} - quotes {HRI 20060427-V1.1} (29 April 2006 - Version 2.1.2 on 1 May 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/b753bf3df40e6a39 {HRI 20060429-V2.1.2-c} (in 'mainland' English) (29 April 2006 - Version 2.1.2-c) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/d0bd2c13c146645f '
___________ Attachments:
(issued separately, as follows)
1. 'Iraq: A Population Silenced' - Dec 2002, public document from the US House Armed Services Committee.
found, with explanations, and typeset, in
'Iraq, A Population Silenced' - Report on Saddam Hussein's criminal insanity' {HRI 20060702-A1-V1.0.1} (2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6da229514738e9f
2. ''The Shadow Of A Monster,' being the body-double of Saddam Hussein's son Uday - Report on Saddam Hussein's criminal insanity' {HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.1} (2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.1) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/4c41d6b3b912ccb9 {HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.2} (V1.0.2 has a short intro message) (2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.2) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.greek/msg/a8b60b031f82d4bc
A telling report about Latif Yahia's years of horror with Saddam's sadistic son Uday Hussein. 12 April 2003, by Lance Laytner, http://www.unison.ie '
__________ Issue Note:
A previous issue of HRI 20060702, that included the attachments, but those practically without typesetting or explanations, was:
'REFUSING to Invade Iraq, Constitutes Severe Crimes against Humanity, by the Sociopaths Putin, Schroeder, Chirac, Jiang Zemin, Zapatero, etc.' {HRI 20060702-V3.3.2.1} (2 July 2006 - Version 3.3.2 on 10 Sept 2006) [for instance at] http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.org.un/msg/f9c97ccbaa8fdf6d '
_____ Books:
(A3) (Robert D. Hare)
'Without Conscience - the disturbing world of the psychopaths among us,' in particular its Chapter 7., about 'white-collar Psychopaths.' By Robert D. Hare, University of British Columbia, 1993. (New York: Pocket Books, 1995) (New York: Guilford Press, 1999 - ISBN 1-5730-451-0) http://www.hare.org/home/index.html
From the back cover of the book:
'Robert Hare makes a strong case for the view that psychopaths are born, not made. A chilling, eye-opening report - and a call to action.'
'Of exceptional value to anyone wishing to look behind and guard against these baffling predators [or parasite- or virus-personalities] who live amongst us in fearful [in large] numbers [sixty million of them on Earth].' '
(A4) (Hervey Cleckley)
'The Mask Of Sanity - the acclaimed study of the psychopathic personality' By Hervey Cleckley, Medical College of Georgia, USA. (St. Louis, MO - USA: Mosby Press Medical Library, 1982) (New York: New American Library, ISBN 0-452-25341-1)
From the back cover of the book:
'Arrogant, shameless, immoral, impulsive, antisocial, superficial, alert, self-assured, boastful, callous, remorseless, charming, irresponsible:
'This is the poisonous mix of traits, that make up the psychopathic personality. [...]
'Psychopaths also sit in corporate boardrooms [as directors of companies or institutions] or function as scientists or physicians [medical doctors] or in any number of respectable capacities [holding respected jobs or positions].
'They are all legally competent. [In the legal sense, they are not insane, because they can talk and think as brilliantly as a lawyer, to achieve their purposes.]
'None of them "hears voices" or displays any psychosis [that a psychiatrist could easily recognize or could recognize at all, as these can not and also do not want to define psychosis correctly].
'But they [psychopathic personalities] are all headed for [causing others] big trouble, in a life-long string of [causing] disasters [for others], that could run the gamut [range, the whole spectrum]:
From [causing] financial ruin, to murder.
'Psychiatrists know neither the cause nor the cure of this disorder [and they can not and do not want to define 'disorder' either, and they have been working and will continue to work very hard to hide the cause of any 'disorder'] which evades [their] established definitions of either sanity or insanity;
[So, I have defined all these terms, for you, in the Human Rights Issues {the HRI's}, as none indeed existed. So it is for the first time in history, that correct definitions exist and have been published.]
'indeed, psychiatrists themselves
[and any persons who try to help and to understand Criminal Minds - any people who try to help them]
'are at times as helplessly manipulated by the psychopath, as are the psychopath's other victims.' '
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retrogrouch@comcast.net - 03 Jul 2008 07:55 GMT You stopped your meds again. Go back.
>America Is Freeing Iraq - not "occupying" it. > [quoted text clipped - 847 lines] >Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to: > PlatoWorld at Lycos.com Plato Been - 03 Jul 2008 11:44 GMT Sociopaths, demonic creatures and mental street bums, must filter out, from their own view, all writing by
Koos Nolst Trenite,
argued in this way:
'Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION to talk to me' {Note 20071207} (7 December 2008 - Version 2.0 on 23 Apr 2008) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/d2382c4aa5a6af9a
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Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably the most Intelligent, the most Beautiful and the most Caring philosopher known, and on top of that, the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher known on Earth and beyond.
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Ian Parker - 03 Jul 2008 13:46 GMT What about the 2 million + people who have fled the new tyrants abd are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to democracy in Latin America support for democracy in Iraq is strange.
It would be a "Damascus road" experience, except that the only people on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US imposed) tyrants.
- Ian Parker
Plato Been - 04 Jul 2008 07:45 GMT It is not "respondent's" non-sequitur and false "data" that are interesting, but IT IS interesting, that this individual,
Ian Parker denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of others (souls).
Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity hoax.
Ian Parker denies the observations of others, as regard extra- terrestrial civilization and the evidence of these visible on Earth.
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Such all are indicators for suspecting a sociopath originating those ideas, in this case apparently confirmed to be Ian Parker.
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Criminal Minds are all very standard, and once you know, it is not difficult to detect many of them.
Entirely their opposite,
KNT
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> What about the 2 million + people who have fled the new tyrants abd > are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Ian Parker Ian Parker - 04 Jul 2008 11:45 GMT > It is not "respondent's" non-sequitur and false "data" that are > interesting, but IT IS interesting, that this individual, [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > people on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US imposed) > > tyrants. I do not deny the existence of God or a Soul. I feel that there is a lot of hypocracy in organised religion. That is as different point. The idea of people being forced to flee a country they have grown up in because they say their prayers the wrong way should be abhorrent to everyone, as is suicide bombing and 72 houris.
The hoax is not Einstein - Relativity is well attested. The hoax is the Black Sun, the CIA and neo nazi proaganda. Tell me please, is GPS a hoax? What do you buy when you get Tom Tom and various other GPS based devices?
Extraterrestrial life - I would like to see a rational discussion. The consensus view is that life is common but that intelligent life is rare. There is no evidence we have been visited by intelligent extraterrestrials, the arguments, based to a degree on where our technology is going (ET technology presumably went the same way). Roswell is 1950s SF and the docuyments coming to light show it to have been a gigantic hoax.
Nobody worships "divine Albert". Einstein said that God did not play dice. Well he does
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.research/browse_frm/thread/44aeab12 5f474940/2393c15235ad6f88?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#2393c15235ad6f88
This is a discussion in sci.physics.research on this very topic. As well as quantum mechanics there is the question of chaos. I felt the discussion was disappearing into philosophical semantics - but there you are. I personally like the Ian Stewart formulation of chaos based on topology.
Roswell as I keep saying has been a hoax from beginning to end. The hoax only survived as long as it did because of secrecy. If the documents had not been classified their auhors would now be in jail for fraud.
On the question both of extraterrestrial life and extraterrestrial intelligent life I feel we should look. Do you object to measuring optical activity in the ice of Europa? I want to look and do tests which are as definitive as possible. Same is true of ET intelligent life. There we are up against a problem. Either ET wants to be observed - in which case he would have been observed yonks ago. If he does not it is impossible to obseve him.
Radio/optical transmission will be on a maximum entropy principle and undetecable. As I have said Radio Reloj with its sync pulses is going to disappear very shortly. ET will be invisible to SETI. In fact the only thing that won't be invisible will be the effect of civilization on the home planet.
- Ian Parker
Koos Nolst Trenite - 06 Jul 2008 13:10 GMT The Einstein Hoax, GPS, and the soul - the Shortened Lunch Break
5 July 2008 {HRI note 20080705-II}
1. Ian Parker(*) denies the existence of himself (a soul) and of others (souls).
He claims to acknowledge "The Soul or God," instead, without further defining that. However, every person is a soul.
2. Ian Parker believes in and promotes Einstein's Relativity Hoax, and claims, with others, that the Hoax is proven correct with the engineering of the Global Positioning System (GPS).
However, the (GPS) calculations mentioned (quoted here, below) do not apply to time, but to atomic clocks, meaning essentially, to the orbit of electrons around atomic nuclei.
Then you can say as well, that "time will speed up," in the (ficti- tious) case, that Earth moves into a closer orbit of the sun, (shorter year) or, if Earth speeds up its rotation around itself (shorter day).
To an indoctrinated physicist, that makes perfect sense.
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To a normal person however, it is more like shortening his lunch break:
TIME DOES NOT CHANGE, but the lunch break shortens.
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In other words, there is a complete difference between TIME, and MEASURING TIME.
Which is, why Mr. Albert Einstein's "Relativity" - that "time is relative," and that "space is determined by photons" - IS A HOAX.
And that is, why Mr. Stephen Hawking, the one with the Black Holes, the Big Bangs, etc., is a HOAX TOO.
But, fiction sells well, and is absorbed greedily, and made millionaires of Dan Brown and of J.K. Rowling, who do admit, however, that at least some part of their work IS fiction.
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The belief in the Einstein Hoax, coincides with the (Ian Parker's) denial of the spirit or soul - of the person experiencing his lunch break getting shorter - BECAUSE he is a soul, and because HE knows he does not perceive only photons, and is not a brain, but a soul.
See further:
'Definition of Perception ... Fine Particle Physics ...' {FPP-HRI 20080608-V3.4} (8 June 2008 - Version 3.4 on 24 June 2008) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/86abd93d0b48fc74
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"GPS and Relativity
According to the theory of relativity, due to their constant movement and height relative to the Earth-centered inertial reference frame, the clocks on the satellites are affected by their speed (special relativity) as well as their gravitational potential (general relativity). For the GPS satellites, general relativity predicts that the atomic clocks at GPS orbital altitudes will tick more rapidly, by about 45,900 nanoseconds (ns) per day, because they are in a weaker gravitational field than atomic clocks on Earth's surface. Special relativity predicts that atomic clocks moving at GPS orbital speeds will tick more slowly than stationary ground clocks by about 7,200 ns per day. When combined, the discrepancy is 38 microseconds per day; a difference of 4.465 parts in 1010.[17]. To account for this, the frequency standard onboard each satellite is given a rate offset prior to launch, making it run slightly slower than the desired frequency on Earth; specifically, at 10.22999999543 MHz instead of 10.23 MHz.[18]
GPS observation processing must also compensate for another relativistic effect, the Sagnac effect. The GPS time scale is defined in an inertial system but observations are processed in an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed (co-rotating) system, a system in which simultaneity is not uniquely defined. The Lorentz transformation between the two systems modifies the signal run time, a correction having opposite algebraic signs for satellites in the Eastern and Western celestial hemispheres. Ignoring this effect will produce an east-west error on the order of hundreds of nanoseconds, or tens of meters in position.[19]
The atomic clocks on board the GPS satellites are precisely tuned, making the system a practical engineering application of the scientific theory of relativity in a real-world environment."
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> On 4 Jul, 07:45, [I wrote, as] Plato Been <plato.been@gmail.com> > > It is not "respondent's" non-sequitur and false "data" that are [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > __________________________ [Ian Perker wrote non-sequitur and false "data" as follows]
> > > What about the 2 million + people who have fled the new tyrants and
> > > are now in Syria and Jordan. In view of the attention paid to > > > democracy in Latin America support for democracy in Iraq is strange. > > > > It would be a "Damascus road" experience, except that the only > > > people on the Damascus road are those fleeing the new (US imposed) > > > tyrants. [Ian Parker wrote about himself]
> I do not deny the existence of God or a Soul. I feel that there is a > lot of hypocracy in organised religion. That is as different point. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Nobody worships "divine Albert". Einstein said that God did not play > dice. Well he does http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.research/browse_frm/thre. ..
> This is a discussion in sci.physics.research on this very topic. As > well as quantum mechanics there is the question of chaos. I felt the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Ian Parker Ian Parker - 06 Jul 2008 14:24 GMT On 6 Jul, 13:10, Koos Nolst Trenite <AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Einstein Hoax, GPS, and the soul - the Shortened Lunch Break > [quoted text clipped - 221 lines] > civilization > > on the home planet. Why are you supporting the pseudoscience of Roswell and the CIA?
- Ian Parker
Ian Parker - 06 Jul 2008 14:29 GMT Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand (just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it connected with the Roswell Hoax?
- Ian Parker
Dr. Henri Wilson - 07 Jul 2008 01:03 GMT >Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was >NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic >orchestrated campaign against good science. The Discovery Institute is >rightly criticised for its denial of Evolution. I can understand >(just) Adam, Eve and the Garden. Why Relativity though? Is it >connected with the Roswell Hoax? Einstein's theory was a compromise between existing aether theories and true concept of relativity.
A conclusion of LET is that all observers would measure OWLS to be c whatever their speed through the ABSOLUTE aether. The (fictitious) LTs accounted for this. Einstein merely started with this conclusion and worked the math backwards.
Only an absolute aether or the fairies could magically adjust all starlight in the universe to travel towards little planet Earth at the same precise speed, irrespective of relative source movement.
Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer.
> - Ian Parker Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
Ian Parker - 07 Jul 2008 11:29 GMT > >Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was > >NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Einstein's was indeed a very clever hoaxer. How come there are so many different people talking arrant nnionsense. Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under different pseudonymes.
The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is a compromise on various Aether theories. Poncaré in fact produced a relativisic principle. It was a purely mathematical formulation of Special Relativity. The equations of Quantum Electrodynamics are invariant under the Lorenz transformation. The world we inabit being governed by QE must obey Special Relativity by means of mathematical theorem.
It should be pointed out tthough that Schroedinger's equation is not relativistically invariant as it stands. You need to base QE on the Dirac equation. This sticks its neck out and gives us antiparicles. You need antiparticles to make the equations invariant. The positron exists. Now this to anyones mind must be a tremendous vindication. Indeed so deeply embedded is Relativity that when the weak nuclear force exhibits asymmetry with regard to the antiparticles we say it does not have mirror image symmetry. This tells us that the chemistry of stereo isomers is different to a part in 10^12.
General Relativity is NOT an aether theory in any way. It cannot be. It says some striking and testable things about gravity. Things fall because space is curved. Precession of orbit of Mercury, bending of light near the Sun (the 1919 eclipse of the Sun).
However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco?
- Ian Parker
Dr. Henri Wilson - 07 Jul 2008 23:38 GMT >> >Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was >> >NO Einstein hoax. It is clear to me now that there is a systematic [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >Are they real people? Are they really one person logged in under >different pseudonymes. They are real people who have rejected indoctrination with Einsteiniana.
>The only thing you have said that is even partially true is that SR is >a compromise on various Aether theories. Poncaré in fact produced a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >governed by QE must obey Special Relativity by means of mathematical >theorem. Einstein's theory is NOT relativity at all. It is an aether theory that makes the aether appear redundant. The second postulate clearly requires an absolute aether to operate. How else would all starlight in the universe traveling towards planet earth move at the same speed? Variable star brightness curves are a c+v effect, as I and others have shown.
>It should be pointed out tthough that Schroedinger's equation is not >relativistically invariant as it stands. You need to base QE on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >does not have mirror image symmetry. This tells us that the chemistry >of stereo isomers is different to a part in 10^12. ......irrelevant...
>General Relativity is NOT an aether theory in any way. It cannot be. >It says some striking and testable things about gravity. Things fall >because space is curved. Precession of orbit of Mercury, bending of >light near the Sun (the 1919 eclipse of the Sun). GR describes a universe in which light speed from all sources is always measured to be the same by all observers. It merely distorts and curves 'space' to make that appear true. In individual cases, it can produce teh same answeers as the BaTh. For instance, the gravitational blue shift for falling light is the same in both theories...not surprising.
The GR approach is as stupid as using Earth centrism to describe the motion of planets.
>However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly >proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any >chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco? There is absolutely NO experimental evidence in support of Einstein's relativity.
> - Ian Parker Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
Eric Gisse - 09 Jul 2008 10:26 GMT [snip babble]
> The second postulate clearly requires an absolute aether to operate. How else > would all starlight in the universe traveling towards planet earth move at the > same speed? All these years of whining about relativity can be boiled down to the nugget of truth displayed here.
[snip babble]
spudnik - 09 Jul 2008 04:05 GMT these guys must not believe in Dirac's positron, but the same is true for Big Bang cosmologists, who *assume* that all of the "photons" are being generated by matter (and that all quasars are as far away as a Doppler shift'd indicate, but those are rather exceptional for *any* theory, so far).
Lt.Col. Corso may have been the original Roswell hoaxer; at least his coauthor exposed him as *a* hoaxer, when Corso couldn't make it to the bookstore for the signing; he was dying.
> However as I have said elsewhere Relativity has been so overwhelmingly > proved to be true that one wonders why it is attacked. Is it by any > chance to cover up the Roswell/Area 51 fiasco? thus: only that there is no absolute vacuum per Blaise Pascal's experiment -- he didn't know about partial pressures -- so no "final" value of c, unless it can be calculated from other known constants & "an ideal region of perfectly empty space;" ours is close-enough for all work.
Newton's corpuscles were sum-totally alleviated by Young's experiments: all essential properties are those of waves, aside from the seeming ballisticness of the photoelectric effect, or when Moon hits your eye like that.
Roswell is strictly a psychological "denial" of the people of the area about its two elements of cache from around WW2, as well as a sort of tourist attraction (couldn't be that large, though .-)
"faster than light" is an idea that is required by no known physical principles, other than "hard SF," the same as multiverses et al ad vomitorium.
> If the light postulate is true, then miraculous effects (time > dilation, length contraction etc.) do exist and Einstein is at least [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." thus: he didn't get that with my example of slaloms, that he applied to skiing, either, but you have to realize that the "straight line," even if it exists in a particular stretch, is also a slalom/brachistochrone/tautochrone. so, I just realized, the fact that it takes longer to fall from a higher heighth, is partly a result of "terminal velocity" with air drag.
> It seems that the theory from which his "laws of inertia" are derived > excludes the Sun's gravity as a "physical cause". If it works anywhere > at all, that could only be in a very small box. ;) thus: well, obviously, the gallilean principle of relativity;
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Ian Parker - 09 Jul 2008 14:50 GMT Just one point about the actual value of c. It is
299,792,458 m/s
This is a DEFINITION. To me the interesting thing is that c is more accurate than the scratches on the bar in Paris. The other interesting fact is that means are now available to actually count at optical frequencies.
This is to me remarkable.
- Ian Parker
Dr. Henri Wilson - 16 Jul 2008 01:25 GMT >Just one point about the actual value of c. It is > >299,792,458 m/s > >This is a DEFINITION. To me the interesting thing is that c is more >accurate than the scratches on the bar in Paris. 'c' is a universal constant. It also appears to be the valie of light speed wrt its source. (although this could be very slightly energy dependent).
The value of c can be accurately determined from any good TWLS experiment in a vacuum.
OWLS is not necessarily equal to c. It can have any value.
>The other interesting >fact is that means are now available to actually count at optical >frequencies. I don't think so. Slower beats are counted.
>This is to me remarkable.
> - Ian Parker Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
Double-A - 16 Jul 2008 20:51 GMT > >Just one point about the actual value of c. It is > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible unfortunates. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. Dr. Wilson? Haha!
Mailorder university!
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 19 Jul 2008 13:51 GMT DoubleA My Spin is in theory explains why light leaves its source at c it never can slow down,and photons do not bounce. Bouncing is macro thinking (like a rubber ball) We must think quantum micro. I think QM Bert
Double-A - 19 Jul 2008 18:51 GMT > DoubleA My Spin is in theory explains why light leaves its source at c > it never can slow down,and photons do not bounce. Bouncing is macro > thinking (like a rubber ball) We must think quantum micro. I think QM > Bert Yes, they do not bounce. Bouncing is macro. Braless macro mams comes to mind!
Double-A
Ian Parker - 09 Jul 2008 20:35 GMT > these guys must not believe in Dirac's positron, but > the same is true for Big Bang cosmologists, who *assume* that > all of the "photons" are being generated by matter (and that > all quasars are as far away as a Doppler shift'd indicate, but > those are rather exceptional for *any* theory, so far). Just one point about "Big Bang" cosmologists. Quasars are at cosmological distances. We know about the Physics that makes threm work and we have optical spectra of some of them. You see a quasar consists of a black hole which is actively moving matter and a galaxy. Spectra have been taken of these objects so we know their red shift. The distances are certainly cosmological. If they are NOT far away what is the alternative explanation for red shift?
"All the photons being generated by matter". I don't know what you mean. Photons must have a reason for their existence. Are you referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the Universe became transparant.
- Ian Parker
spudnik - 10 Jul 2008 05:00 GMT photons from antimatter look the same.
doppler shift is not the only plausible reason for redshifts. are there any blueshifts, at all, by the way?
> The distances are certainly cosmological. If they are NOT far away > what is the alternative explanation for red shift? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the > Universe became transparant. thus: only that there is no absolute vacuum per Blaise Pascal's experiment -- he didn't know about partial pressures -- so no "final" value of c, unless it can be calculated from other known constants & "an ideal region of perfectly empty space;" ours is close-enough for all work.
Newton's corpuscles were sum-totally alleviated by Young's experiments: all essential properties are those of waves, aside from the seeming ballisticness of the photoelectric effect, or when Moon hits your eye like that.
Roswell is strictly a psychological "denial" of the people of the area about its two elements of cache from around WW2, as well as a sort of tourist attraction (couldn't be that large, though .-)
"faster than light" is an idea that is required by no known physical principles, other than "hard SF," the same as multiverses et al ad vomitorium.
> If the light postulate is true, then miraculous effects (time > dilation, length contraction etc.) do exist and Einstein is at least [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary > physics." thus: he didn't get that with my example of slaloms, that he applied to skiing, either, but you have to realize that the "straight line," even if it exists in a particular stretch, is also a slalom/brachistochrone/tautochrone. so, I just realized, the fact that it takes longer to fall from a higher heighth, is partly a result of "terminal velocity" with air drag.
> It seems that the theory from which his "laws of inertia" are derived > excludes the Sun's gravity as a "physical cause". If it works anywhere > at all, that could only be in a very small box. ;) thus: well, obviously, the gallilean principle of relativity;
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Odysseus - 10 Jul 2008 09:06 GMT In article <61b80a79-cac2-4a77-8dcb-855a9b3d7ba6@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> photons from antimatter look the same. > > doppler shift is not the only plausible reason > for redshifts. are there any blueshifts, at all, > by the way? Certainly: M31 in Andromeda is a prominent example from the Local Group. But beyond a certain distance (~10-20 Mpc?) no galaxies have fast enough proper motion to offset their cosmological redshifts.
 Signature Odysseus
spudnik - 21 Jul 2008 22:47 GMT these are largely a priori assumptions, that the Hubbleshift is the same as a Doppler shift, whereas the main effect of greater redshift with distance could simply be tied to the effects of "vacuum;" it's only relative!
the anamolous associations of the quasars have been amply documented by the late Halton Arp, who was progressively denied access to time on the scopes, because of his seeming sacrilege. so, if the quasars are not as far away as a redshift-is-all-Dopplergangs, then they are not quite as powerful as calculated. anyway, I believe that one of the main interpretations is that quasars are associated with the births of new galaxies from older ones, or some thing, or it's meitotic, or what ever.
as for the "cosmic background radiation," I just read a snippet in *Harper's* that coincides with what I thought, that I'd read some when way back: "....Geneticists calculated taht humans nearly died out 70,000 years ago. Cosmologists postulated that the universe began not with a bang, but a splat, and suggested that the solar system may be saturated within a billion-light-year-wide bubble of low density, surrounded by a shell of high density, which would create, for observers on Earth, the illusion that the universe's expansion is accelerating. Geologists remain uncertain why the Earth hums." ("Findings," July 2008) or, what I was originally thinking, is that COBE really saw what could not be known to be not just a local effect, anyway; the 2.7K is associatedd with what spectrum?
anyway, "photons" are also created by antimatter; they are not "antiphotons" that anhialate the good vibrations o'light!
> consists of a black hole which is actively moving matter and a galaxy. > Spectra have been taken of these objects so we know their red shift. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > referring to the 2.7K radiation? We know that after 300,000 years the > Universe became transparant. thus: strategically, it was Churchill who needlessly prolonged the war, and you can look that up on larouchepub.com; I forgot. the real tragedy, abundantly documented alsothereat, was Truman's going over MacArthur *and* Eisenhower's heads, to begin the nuclear age with an act of terrorism (although the firebombings were numerically worse).
"no aether" is just an interpretation, plainly acknowledged by AE -- somebody on one of these fora recently quoted him on that.
if you don't comprehend the proportionality of matter with energy, via c, you really have no gripe with the twin "paradox" ... what if you were there triplet deployed at 120-degree trajectory, away from them?
> Why? There is no reference to any medium - material or otherwise - in > Maxwell's equations.
> Lorentz transforms are only valid for constant velocity, and the > traveling twin accelerates when he turns around. Why can you not > understand this? thus: really; line-of-sight is not the quickest path, nor the least-energy path. if you're ever going to find out what the shape of the box is (then, whether ye be in or out of it), you're going to have to at least "look up" the problem of the tautachrone, which is the same as the brachistoschrone, which is how Leibniz popularized his calculus (solved by Bernoulli, as well). but, please, don't googolplex it, or you'll never get it!
a related, though maybe "ill-posed" problem, is, waht is the slowest path?
the brachistochrone (for light-considered-as-a-particle, AKA geometric optics or ray-tracing) is just an application of Fermat's least-time principle for light, or rather, Snell's extension of it to refraction.
> No. The shortest distance may be a straight line, but > it's not always the most energy efficient. Remember, thus: where is *what* ice, there?
newsflash, icebergs calve off of icesheets, either because a) the icesheet is "collapsing," or b) precipitation is greater. c) both of the above in some spots (the part of Antarctica that sticks-out into the weather e.g.: the Larsen-B iceshelf broke off, and "the sky is glowing -- help!")
I read that there are about 4x more polar bears, now, than there were a few decades ago, presumably because they like garbage as much as most other bears -- those feelthee Eskimos!
> when all will seem strange and we will wonder where the ice is. > Why are not we able to connect the environmental dots? thus: yes, well, the daily rotation isn't a rational subdivisor, apparently, of the yearly revolution (at least, not a direct, "linear" relationship to be seen -- and why should there be?).
the daylength can always be defined as 24 hours, regardless of the varying speed of rotation; Verdi's classical tuning is middle C = 256 cycles per second; A = 440Hz was established by the Nazis, at a concert in London, 'cause "it's more brilliant for the times!"
thus: garbage, unless you consider the Alain Aspect version of Schroedinger's undead cat (Erwin's little gedanken joke) viz-a-vu the EPR paradox, which is just an interpretation (that is, the Copenhagen Schoolers' mystical write-up of this experiment; the cat has been dead for a hundred years, so that you probably wouldn't be able to find the putrid remains of *that* particular ****, including the still-damp litter).
what possible phenomenon requires speeds over light, other than scifi authorships?
> signalling, you should be able to entangle particles to produce > instantaneous travel. thus: his statement could refer to raw coal rocks; I'm sure that there is a tremendous variation in the darkness of seams of coal!
> compare the number of stars you can see on a clear moonless night to > the number of stars you can see on a night when there's a full moon. thus: conjuring scifi is silly; it has always been a haven of supersillyousness or outright spookery, as per "flatland" by the ridiculous A.A.Skwared, 4D BS from the British Pyschol.Society etc., and the latterday mongering of timespace -- the arbitrary spacialization of time by means of a diagram, which is supposed to be an *aid* to comprehension of phasespace, not a "reified" ideal of itself, per Minkowski's youthful exhuberance. (y'know, Minkowski's stuff is really mathematically worthwhile, otherwise ... "no, please, don't, stop -- mathematics ?!?!")
*a priori* assumptions of megalithic structures on Venus, like Hoagland's Balls on Mars foolishness, really requires an actual program o'space to investigate, since nature is capable of quite awesome geometries (or 'hype-D physiques,' or it's all ultimately geometry, anyway, somehow, a la Plato or Bucky Fullerofit); however, that was shotdown with Kennedy & Nixon: just as with our nuclear energy, we are still using '50s technology from the planet Marduk (per ScientologyTM .-)
> > You can consider them "multidimensional" beings who exist through time
> the clearly intelligent infrastructure that can be seen as rational > and existing/coexisting on Venus? thus: that which causes the matter of "time slowing" in acceleration, is really the same as matter being energy, somehow, via their proportionality with c, the speed of light; that's incredibly obvious, although I know of no school of quantum, that says, how many quants of light make a proton e.g. (and, since the "photons" come in all sizes, it's moot .-)
in any case, this is one of the properties of light that was experimentally verified in the 19th cce, although it is carachteristically never even mentioned, in favor of one of the EinsteinHubbleGodot paradoxi/ doctrines of the Department of Einsteinmania/ the Musical Department!
thus: superstringtheory at least gets rid of that point, from the get-go & without further a-do, even if it's not just a string, a "one-dimensional object" ... howsoever it is that matter bends space, as measured by Gauss for the government of France in the 19th cce, and experimentally adduced by the classical Greek geometers, light travels through this bent medium, which apparently also alters the shape of it -- no timespace utterances needed, it's so very, blatantly bended-up!
Roswell is a big double-entendre from WW2, but you could see that those who embrace it could go no further. that is really the gist of the "Lt.Col. Corso School" of Roswellology, that virtually *all* of 20th cce science & technology [http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/] came out of Corso's very own dyspersal of the pile of crap that fell out of the sky, there, to "some big corporations;" mayhap, he also wrote the first press-release -- too bad, he had to wait til he was at death's door, to reap the deal for the book.
that is to say, humans are incapable of generating ideas ... or, it just applies to Americans!
> > > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was --Seargent Barracks Soros McCheeny Pepper, "Give jihad a chance in The Sudan, Rhodesia, and other former colonial moments -- Yahoo!TM; you're going to feel my computerized draft, boys'n'girls: NO AMERICAN MIDDLESCHOOLER LEFT BEHIND; NO RHODESIA SCHOLARS IN HARM'S WAY!" http://larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3526lar_soros_pamph.html http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526save_nations_parasites.html http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526zim_brit_op.html
> incorrect value and the reasoning behind it even though our > civilisation achieved the core principles of 24 hours/360 degrees many > centuries ago and we use those principles day in and day out,then we > no longer deserve the title of 'civilisation' regardless oif how > advanced our technological achievements are. thus: garbage, unless you consider the Alain Aspect version of Schroedinger's undead cat (Erwin's little gedanken joke) viz-a-vu the EPR paradox, which is just an interpretation (that is, the Copenhagen Schoolers' mystical write-up of this experiment; the cat has been dead for a hundred years, so that you probably wouldn't be able to find the putrid remains of *that* particular ****, including the extremely damp litter).
what possible phenomenon requires speeds over light, other than scifi authorships?
> How does that work? > > Well if you entangle photons in a weird way to produce instantaneous > signalling, you should be able to entangle particles to produce > instantaneous travel. thus: excellent quantifications; "BG" will never reply to it, I guess, although his statement could refer to raw coal rocks; I'm sure, though, that there is a tremendous variation in the darkness of seams of coal!
> For anyone who believes the moon is too dark to wash out stars - > compare the number of stars you can see on a clear moonless night to > the number of stars you can see on a night when there's a full moon. thus: conjuring scifi is silly; it has always been a haven of supersillyousness or outright spookery, as per "flatland" by the ridiculous A.A.Skwared, 4D BS from the British Pyschol.Society etc., and the latterday mongering of timespace -- the arbitrary spacialization of time by means of a diagram, which is supposed to be an *aid* to comprehension of phasespace, not a "reified" ideal of itself, per Minkowski's youthful exhuberance. (y'know, Minkowski's stuff is really mathematically worthwhile, otherwise ... "no, please, don't, stop -- mathematics ?!?!")
*a priori* assumptions of megalithic structures on Venus, like Hoagland's Balls on Mars foolishness, really requires an actual program o'space to investigate, since nature is capable of quite awesome geometries (or 'hype-D physiques'); however, that was shotdown with Kennedy & Nixon: just as with our nuclear energy, we are still using '50s technology from the planet Marduk (per ScientologyTM .-)
> > You can consider them "multidimensional" beings who exist through time
> the clearly intelligent infrastructure that can be seen as rational > and existing/coexisting on Venus? thus: that which causes the matter of "time slowing" in acceleration, is really the same as matter being energy, somehow, via their proportionality with c, the speed of light; that's incredibly obvious, although I know of no school of quantum, that says, how many quants of light make a proton e.g. (and, since the "photons" come in all sizes, it's moot .-)
in any case, this is one of the properties of light that was experimentally verified in the 19th cce, although it is carachteristically never even mentioned, in favor of one of the EinsteinHubbleGodot paradoxi/ doctrines of the Department of Einsteinmania/ the Musical Department!
thus: superstringtheory at least gets rid of that point, from the get-go & without further a-do, even if it's not just a string, a "one-dimensional object" ... howsoever it is that matter bends space, as measured by Gauss for the government of France in the 19th cce, and experimentally adduced by the classical Greek geometers, light travels through this bent medium, which apparently also alters the shape of it -- no timespace utterances needed, it's so very, blatantly bended-up!
Roswell is a big double-entendre from WW2, but you could see that those who embrace it could go no further. that is really the gist of the "Lt.Col. Corso School" of Roswellology, that virtually *all* of 20th cce science & technology [http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/] came out of Corso's very own dyspersal of the pile of crap that fell out of the sky, there, to "some big corporations;" mayhap, he also wrote the first press-release -- too bad, he had to wait til he was at death's door, to reap the deal for the book.
that is to say, humans are incapable of generating ideas ... or, it just applies to Americans!
> > > Einstein was not a hoax, you are. There IS a Roswell hoax, there was --Seargent Barracks Soros McCheeny Pepper, "Give jihad a chance in The Sudan, Rhodesia, and other former colonial moments -- Yahoo!TM; you're going to feel my computerized draft, boys'n'girls: NO AMERICAN MIDDLESCHOOLER LEFT BEHIND; NO RHODESIA SCHOLARS IN HARM'S WAY!" http://larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3526lar_soros_pamph.html http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526save_nations_parasites.html http://larouchepub.com/other/2008/3526zim_brit_op.html
Saul Levy - 22 Jul 2008 19:49 GMT Halton's dead? No way! lmao!
He has a website with contact info.: http://www.haltonarp.com
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halton_Arp
I've worked with him at Kitt Peak. Denied telescope access? Not true. Maybe at Palomar, but not at Kitt Peak.
Saul Levy
>the anamolous associations of the quasars have been amply documented >by the late Halton Arp, who was progressively denied access [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >quasars are associated with the births of new galaxies >from older ones, or some thing, or it's meitotic, or what ever. Koobee Wublee - 09 Jul 2008 21:18 GMT |
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