Where Have All My Virtual Friends Gone?
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G=EMC^2 Glazier - 25 Jun 2008 14:46 GMT You know who you are,so start posting. Look what Twitty and Double-A have to do to post You guys,and Darla have great computers. Look at me I have only a LOW LIFE WEBTV and I post every day. I want a good excuse from all of you. Darla I know is busy hopping from galaxy to galaxy. I don't even know if nightbat got his socks wet. Go figure Bert
Twittering One - 25 Jun 2008 15:19 GMT At least you get your Everglades back, Bert.
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Jun 2008 15:12 GMT Twitty The everglades are good for snakes and gators,and I don't cotton to them. I'm grateful for your going out of your way to post. Bert
Twittering One - 26 Jun 2008 15:38 GMT Bert, at least someone -- likely Andrew Revkin -- at the NYTs like wetlands; and you do, too.
The New York Times June 26, 2008
Editorial A Chance for the Everglades
The languishing effort to revive and restore the Everglades — one of the most ambitious environmental initiatives on the planet — received an unexpected and potentially spectacular boost on Tuesday when Gov. Charlie Crist announced that Florida had agreed in principle to buy 187,000 acres of farmland from the United States Sugar Corporation, the state’s (and the nation’s) largest sugar-cane producer.
The farmland, located along the southern edge of Lake Okeechobee, would be converted into reservoirs to store water and artificial marshes to help clean it.
The $1.75 billion deal would remove a big source of phosphorus pollution, which sugar-cane farming produces in abundance. The greater benefit would come from restoring a good part of the historic water flow between Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades — a flow that sustained the Everglades for centuries but has since been diverted (at great cost to the ecosystem and its wildlife) to Florida’s cities and farms.
We also hope that the deal will shame Washington into shouldering its full responsibility. The landmark $8 billion restoration plan signed into law by President Clinton in 2000 called for a 50-50 split in costs between Florida and the federal government.
Florida has been living up to its share, contributing $2.4 billion even before this latest deal. Under President Bush, willfully indifferent to most environmental issues, and an inattentive Congress, the federal government has contributed less than $400 million — a pathetic showing.
As a result, the restoration project is way behind schedule. And while the state got a bargain from United States Sugar — which has suffered internal financial problems as well as pressure from state regulators — rising land values have pushed the plan’s price tag to more than $11 billion, making federal support even more essential.
The cooperation of the notoriously dysfunctional Army Corps of Engineers will be at least as important as more federal dollars. There is no point in storing billions of gallons of fresh water unless a path can be cleared for it to reach the Everglades. That will require the Army Corps to reshape the spider web of canals and levees standing between Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades.
Success will also require a fundamental shift in Florida’s politics far beyond this deal. There are many reasons for restoring the Everglades. It is, even now, an irreplaceably diverse storehouse of plant and animal life. But it will have no real future if the commercial powerhouses that have ruled Florida for so long — the developers, the water utilities and their political allies — continue to grab a disproportionate share of the water.
Governor Crist, at least, seems determined to make sure that, this time, nature gets its due. The next president and Congress, and the Army Corps, must help him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/opinion/26thu2.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Jun 2008 19:01 GMT Twitty Charlie Crist can be quoted as saying every thing right "What honest citizens want to hear" Reality is he does nothing "good" and is a true lieutenant in the Mafia republican party. The Godfather is thinking of him as McCains vice president. It fits bert PS Charlie Crist iwhen he retires from politics will be made vice president of AllState. After all look how much he did for AllState this year. Reality is his making sure AllState is back in Florida proves he is a no good bastard liar Bert
Double-A - 26 Jun 2008 20:33 GMT > Twitty Charlie Crist can be quoted as saying every thing right "What > honest citizens want to hear" Reality is he does nothing "good" and is a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Reality is his making sure AllState is back in Florida proves he is a no > good bastard liar Bert If Crist runs as McCain's VP, and carries Florida for McCain, then Florida will be on the Obama administration's sh.t list and won't receive any federal funds for the next four years! Same thing has happened to Oregon during the Republican administrations, since the state usually carries for the Democrat in Presidential elections.
Double-A
P.S. I still thing Crist should change the spelling of his name to Christ to pickup more of the fundamentalist vote! To pick up more of the latino vote, he could change his first name to Jesus (Hey-soos)!
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Jun 2008 21:38 GMT Double-A You are jumping the gun putting Obama in the Oval office. Best to keep in mind the republican Godfather is holding that gun,and can use it with no consequences. Bert
Double-A - 27 Jun 2008 19:33 GMT > Double-A You are jumping the gun putting Obama in the Oval office. Best > to keep in mind the republican Godfather is holding that gun,and can use > it with no consequences. Bert There is still an alternative candidate. His name is Bob Barr, a former Congressman, who is running for President on the Libertarian ticket. For those who can't stomach either of the major party candidates, nor Ralph Nader either, he could be your man. The main advantage of voting third party is that whichever major party candidate wins, and however bad things get, you can keep on saying, "I didn;t vote for that bastard!"
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 27 Jun 2008 22:35 GMT Double-A I can't even go to a town meeting. Bob Hansel the Osceola sheriff has his deputies waiting for me so I can't get in. Not voting its to hazardous. Would have voted for Obama. Bert
Saul Levy - 30 Jun 2008 07:34 GMT True, DA. Wish I could say that about Bushie2.
Saul Levy
>> Double-A You are jumping the gun putting Obama in the Oval office. Best >> to keep in mind the republican Godfather is holding that gun,and can use [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Double-A Double-A - 01 Jul 2008 19:33 GMT > True, DA. Wish I could say that about Bushie2. > > Saul Levy Me2!
Double-A
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:33:06 -0700 (PDT), Double-A > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > >Double-A G=EMC^2 Glazier - 02 Jul 2008 01:14 GMT Double-A We only have to see how Bush is in the White House to realize the days of demarcates holding the executive branch ended with Clinton. Bert
Darla - 25 Jun 2008 20:55 GMT > You know who you are,so start posting. Look what Twitty and Double-A > have to do to post You guys,and Darla have great computers. Look at me I > have only a LOW LIFE WEBTV and I post every day. I want a good excuse > from all of you. Darla I know is busy hopping from galaxy to galaxy. I > don't even know if nightbat got his socks wet. Go figure Bert Never to busy to read your posts, dear Bert! At least one of us reads news groups every day.
Wakes are for the living. When not alive, one is too entertained to attend.
Keep up your chin and your fearless posting!
Darla
Double-A - 25 Jun 2008 21:01 GMT > > You know who you are,so start posting. Look what Twitty and Double-A > > have to do to post You guys,and Darla have great computers. Look at me I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Darla Darla,
Great to see you posting. I only get to post for one hour at a library each day that I have to walk two miles to get to, but I do what I can. Hope everything is OK with you.
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 26 Jun 2008 15:23 GMT Darla I'm honored having you tell me you read my humble posts. I do post to often Even started up again my "What if" My fearless posting I'm afraid will not make any changes for the better. You have made my day Darla. We understand each other,and if I was 2 million years younger I would sweep you off your feet. Bert
Saul Levy - 29 Jun 2008 18:38 GMT Post every other day, BEERTbrain!
Maybe then you'd have more to say. New stuff...
Saul Levy
>You know who you are,so start posting. Look what Twitty and Double-A >have to do to post You guys,and Darla have great computers. Look at me I >have only a LOW LIFE WEBTV and I post every day. I want a good excuse >from all of you. Darla I know is busy hopping from galaxy to galaxy. I >don't even know if nightbat got his socks wet. Go figure Bert
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