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Space Forum / Astronomy / July 2008What if (on Gravity)
What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why its waves can't be found,for it fits with "illusionism" When we look for the source for gravity or even hypothesis a source we are all dreamers. oc has his dream I have my dream etc Bert > What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true > character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why > its waves can't be found,for it fits with "illusionism" When we look > for the source for gravity or even hypothesis a source we are all > dreamers. oc has his dream I have my dream etc Bert Gravity waves are those of nearly zero Hz. You don't usually feel or otherwise detect DC until it's too late. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true > character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why > its waves can't be found,for it fits with "illusionism" When we look > for the source for gravity or even hypothesis a source we are all > dreamers. oc has his dream I have my dream etc Bert Gravity an illusion. So are you saying that supernovas are an illusion? Is it an illusion that the stupendous force of the outward pressure of a star is contained and held in by an illusion? Is the fact that you and i don't float away into space just a product of our imaginations? happy days and... starry starry nights!  SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net > "G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbertglaz...@webtv.net> wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > by an illusion? Is the fact that you and i don't float away > into space just a product of our imaginations? Among the VS'ers there's a certain school that says gravity is a 'fictitious' or pseudo force by dint of something-or-other "following a space-time geodesic" or some such. If so, it's an awfully herculean pseudoism to perform the VERY REAL stunts that gravity handily and routinely performs throughout the cosmos.. like super and-hypernovas and quasars. Panius & oc I expected very harsh treatment on this What if I posted it with tongue in cheek Still action of two objects ATTRACTING EACH OTHER OVER BILLIONS OF LYs of space is not easy thinking Bert PS dam that cap key > Panius & oc I expected very harsh treatment on this What if I posted > it with tongue in cheek Still action of two objects ATTRACTING EACH > OTHER OVER BILLIONS OF LYs of space is not easy thinking Bert PS dam > that cap key WHAT IF distant objects don't attract each other, but the space between them shrinks? Double-A Double-A Very good for I have motion shrinking space and gravity and motion are equivalent Thank you It all fits bert Everything moves “ forward ” in time, no matter what; so, when spacetime ( 4-D ) is warped, acceleration is the default. >> What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true >> character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Gravity an illusion. So are you saying that supernovas > are an illusion? Not sure how you arrive at that one, but wait until we find out that the barren surface of Mars and the hectic surface of Venus are mere illusions. > When we look > for the source for gravity or even hypothesis a source we are all > dreamers. oc has his dream I have my dream etc. Then a number of people worldwide are dreamin' the same dream, Bert. Independantly and without collaboration they see essentially the same mechansim of gravity. Though their models differ superficially, they see the same accelerating, 'reverse starburst' flow of the spatial medium into mass with mass synonymous with flow sink. > What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true > character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why > its waves can't be found,for it fits with "illusionism" When we look > for the source for gravity or even hypothesis a source we are all > dreamers. oc has his dream I have my dream etc Bert I think that the first microbe mineral that was formed over the Earth decided it did not wish to fly off into space, and so chose to believe it would stick to the ground... ...and every creature since believed the same thing... ...and that is the only reason we stick to the ground. IOW if we did not believe we would stick to the ground we in fact would not. >> What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true >> character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > IOW if we did not believe we would stick to the ground we in fact would > not. Have you tested this? happy days and... starry starry nights! SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net > "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Have you tested this? Musta discovered the leviton. :-) >>> What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true >>> character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Have you tested this? Sure, by building model balsa airplanes, which by our belief in the airfoil, defy the law of gravity. >>>> What if gravity is an illusion? This illusion makes us miss its true >>>> character. We are living with a false appearance of it.. That is why [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Sure, by building model balsa airplanes, which by our belief in the > airfoil, defy the law of gravity. Airplanes do not "defy gravity". Actually, they *use* gravity in order to fly. There are four forces that enable an airplane to fly... thrust, drag, lift and WEIGHT. Defying gravity... actually defying gravity... will take a lot more than "belief". And that is my belief. happy days and... starry starry nights! SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net > "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Defying gravity... actually defying gravity... will take > a lot more than "belief". A conventional airplane *relies on* gravity to maintain stability in level flight. To fly hands-off and in an auto-stable condition is an exquisite balancing act between weight of the nose trying to push the nose down, and the force of airflow 'down' against the horizontal tailplane pushing the nose 'up' (the 'fulcrum' between the two forces being the wing's center of lift, or mean aerodynamic center). Center of gravity (CG) is placed slightly forward of the 'fulcrum' to maintain this delicate balance. In article <b64abf65-4892-4b5d-a01e-0ad1b3a423f9@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > > "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > of gravity (CG) is placed slightly forward of the 'fulcrum' to > maintain this delicate balance. It gets better ... Airplane wings are commonly V-shaped so that in level flight, each wing has slightly less than optimal lift. But should a gust of wind tilt the plane a bit, so that one wing is horizontal and the other at an even higher angle, the wing on the "down" side now has more lift than the wing on the "up" side. This inequality in up vectors coupled with the down vector of the fuselage of the plane (provided by gravity) servers to stabilize the airplane's roll angle. SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. On Jul 6, 11:59 am, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote: > In article > <b64abf65-4892-4b5d-a01e-0ad1b3a42...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > coupled with the down vector of the fuselage of the plane (provided by > gravity) servers to stabilize the airplane's roll angle. Exactly. The 'V' is termed dihedral. Also, a high-winged plane with 'no' dihedral maintains roll stability simply by the pendulum effect of the fuselage hanging below the wing. Gravity provides stabilization in the roll axis as well as in the pitch axis. |
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