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Space Forum / Astronomy / June 2008McCain- vs. Obama
Super saturday 7.6.2008 went into history as a day of America and a day of black America. Barack Obama went as history becoming first highest ranking black candidate in US history of politics. His candidacy was however more on popularity in party than in votes. Hillary Clinton won Obama in so called "super ten" 7-3 and lose all states 22-28. In politics votes don't necessarily count. In spite of Hillarys win Obama was kept as better candidate by John Kerry,Kennedy and many influential democrats. Their votes were decisieve. Five months is ahead to november when 200 million americans say their word in the battle. McCain possibilites were valued better to Obama than Hillary. Black america (10% population) will turn great to Baracks pocket, that is sure. What is Johns tactics. He cann't trust to black. Scandal that became three months ago puts John difficult situation. It is however more probable that Obama will not play that card now. That was Hillary's big card, and fit for him but to Barck it is not sure to work. Military and foreign political expertise is McCains card, he is as old as Reagan in his presidency. In jewhis vote MacCain and Obama are in their openings campaigning neck and neck. Will MacCain nominate his nearest rival Huccabee as vice president or Obama Hillary wait and see. Exciteing moment seeing whose nerve will last to precidency. http://users.utu.fi/pertkoiv/ From alt.astronomy... > Super saturday 7.6.2008 went into history as a day of America and a > day of black America. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Exciteing moment seeing whose nerve will last to precidency. > http://users.utu.fi/pertkoiv/ IMO, if Clinton had won the primary, Obama supporters for the most part would have had no problem supporting Clinton against McCain. But a significant number of Clinton supporters will hang in and write her name on the ballot, giving McCain a deciding edge. Obama doesn't have a chance in hell of beating McCain, whereas Clinton would have given McCain a good fight, and perhaps would have beaten him to become the next president. Looks like the reps win again. Hands down. happy days and... starry starry nights!  SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine P.S. Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S. Some secret sites (shh)... http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org http://eBook-eDen.secretsgolden.com Painius Nicely put. Obama could win in November,but never sleep in the White House. Hillary did have the best chance,and might take the vice president post(I dought it) Being a senator of NY has its power. Still she also knows that Obama could be shot. She also knows she can be shot At this spacetime both the CIA and the FBI are not up and up.(very corrupt) Bert > Painius Nicely put. Obama could win in November,but never sleep in the > White House. Hillary did have the best chance,and might take the > vice president post(I dought it)... Obama would never pick Hillary to be a VP because she brings the problems of her husband with her. She may give some lip service to Obama being elected, but it won't be much. Remember, she can always run again in 4-8 years. That said; Obama has obviously impressed a lot of powerful people enough to make it as far as he has. His election campaign was unrivaled as far as coordination, volunteers and small donations. tlack Obama can win,but can he stay alive? Bert And YOU could be shot, BEERTbrain! lmao! Is there a difference here? Saul Levy >Painius Nicely put. Obama could win in November,but never sleep in the >White House. Hillary did have the best chance,and might take the >vice president post(I dought it) Being a senator of NY has its power. >Still she also knows that Obama could be shot. She also knows she can >be shot At this spacetime both the CIA and the FBI are not up and >up.(very corrupt) Bert Cactus Saul If I'm shot so what? Will you miss my posts? I think not. Others I know would,but not for long. People live and die. We really don't get 20 minutes of fame in 80 years of living. All Walhol's are wrong way thinkers Bert McCain Can't win after what the republican Mafia has done in the passed 8 years,and yet he will sit in the oval office and be president of USA. My America is not of the people. It is ruled by the Mafia. Sad but so very true It is money all the way down. One name the Mafia uses is "Severn Trent" Exactly, BEERTbrain, so why do you continuously harp on it? Saul Levy >Cactus Saul If I'm shot so what? Will you miss my posts? I think not. >Others I know would,but not for long. People live and die. We really >don't get 20 minutes of fame in 80 years of living. All Walhol's are >wrong way thinkers Bert Cactus saul I 'harp' on it so my point will long be remembered Bert Foul, BEERTbrain! So do the WartPiggy, BradBoi and other denizens of the DARK SIDE! Repeating meaningless drivel is a waste of our time. Saul Levy >Cactus saul I 'harp' on it so my point will long be remembered Bert Painius I hope to be out of Florida so my vote will be counted. I did not cotton to the fact that my ballot box was found two weeks after the election in a field. Did not like Florida state police harassing the black American voters. All this would be unbelievable if it was not on the news. I left out those KKK busses carrying people with base ball bats. Its very scarey to go to Florida poles. Its not good for your health not to vote republican KKK Bert > Painius I hope to be out of Florida so my vote will be counted. I did > not cotton to the fact that my ballot box was found two weeks after the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bats. Its very scarey to go to Florida poles. Its not good for your > health not to vote republican KKK Bert Why don't you go to a mail in ballot like Oregon? Then those problems will go away. I think Obama's only chance is to pick Hillary for his VP. If his ego is too big to do that, then he will probably lose as many Hillary supporters vot for McCain, a liberal Republican who is pallitable to many Democrats. Double-A > From alt.astronomy... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > would have given McCain a good fight, and perhaps would > have beaten him to become the next president. mccain got roughly 9.5 million votes. ( http://us-president.suite101.com/article.cfm/final_total_primary_popular_votes) Hillary got roughly (not counting Fl and Michigan) 16.378,895 million votes and Obama 16,579,895. This means if half of Hillary's supporters voted for mccain he would get about 17 million votes - now lets say a quarter of the remaining stay home and only a quarter of Hillary's votes go to Obama, Obama would still win the popular vote with about 20 million (beating mcain by about 3 million votes). While this is popular votes I believe you would be hard pressed to give a scenerio where mccain loses by 3 million votes and still takes the presidency. I also find it unlikely that only a quarter of people who voted for Hillary would vote for Obama. Nor do I believe a full half of Hillary's supporters would vote for mccain - so Obama's popular lead will be even greater than the 3 million shown above. SignatureRandomly generated signature The pen is mightier than the sword, until it runs out of ink. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > > From alt.astronomy... > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > mccain got roughly 9.5 million votes. ( http://us-president.suite101.com/article.cfm/final_total_primary_popular_votes) > Hillary got roughly (not counting Fl and Michigan) 16.378,895 million > votes and Obama 16,579,895. This means if half of Hillary's supporters [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > supporters would vote for mccain - so Obama's popular lead will be even > greater than the 3 million shown above. I agree with what you said, but I think Obama will get way more than 3 million votes more than McCain. I don't think the seniors will vote for McCain when they hear that he wants to privatize their Social Security. And Obama wants to do away with taxing seniors with less than $50,000 income. Those seniors in FL and elsewhere will vote for Obama in multitudes. Obama Will never live in the White House. He will be lucky if he is not shot in the head like all those the republican Godfather "did not cotton to" Just about everyone in Florida knows that is reality Its possible Obama and Hillary will get it back to back. If they are lucky and don;'t win the White House they should be very thankful,for that is the reason they are still alive What has happened to my America that can make this reality? So real it fits So real it scares me. Bert > Obama Will never live in the White House. He will be lucky if he is not > shot in the head like all those the republican Godfather "did not cotton [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > reason they are still alive What has happened to my America that can > make this reality? So real it fits So real it scares me. Bert Once Obama's there, they will no longer call it the "White" House. Double-A Double-A Obama might color it 'purple' Bert > Double-A wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Double-A Obama might color it 'purple' Bert I was thinking closer to "Red". happy days and... starry starry nights! SignatureIndelibly yours, Paine Ellsworth P.S.: Thank YOU for reading! P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net |
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