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Space Forum / Astronomy / July 2008Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin
Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif Our moon’s South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently only 13 km deep (roughly 0.5%), offers a perfectly darn good example of the relatively shallow nature of such a horrific impact, as most likely moderated in depth due to the moon’s thick coating of surface ice that existed prior to the lithobraking encounter with Earth. Of several other largest of craters are those approximately 10% as impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter, and equally shallow. Otherwise, if not having been protected by a thick layer of salty ice, I suppose those unusually shallow and oldest of moon craters are due to the unusually robust crust that is simply a whole lot thicker and more density substantial than anything terrestrial. In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km by 13 km would also have required an impact with something of considerably larger diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before that moon arrived at encountering Earth. Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type of complex multiple encounter with such an icy proto-moon or icy planetoid that was merging with our solar system after being red-giant phase ejected away from the complex Sirius-A/B star/solar system that had recently burned through 5x worth of solar mass upon converting Sirius-B into that white dwarf (Sirius-A picking up one solar mass, leaves 4x missing in action). Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy of the Sirius star system having lost those 4x solar mass, thereby losing it’s tidal radius grip on such planets and spare moons or planetoids. . – Brad Guth > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > radius grip on such planets and spare moons or planetoids. > . – Brad Guth Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth was a topic about the alternative as to how this planet obtained that terrific moon, as well as started the last thaw from the very last ice age this planet w/moon is ever going to see. It’s also about what’s not depicted within those early cave paintings that matters. Here’s a somewhat better worded introduction to this topic. The early or proto-modern human species, as of their surviving during and obviously as of shortly after the very last ice-age this Earth w/ moon is ever going to see, as such were obviously extremely survival intelligent folks, meaning much better off at their surviving within that raw and often cold terrain than the vast majority of supposedly highly educated and technology assisted as any modern clothed plus well insulated and tool outfitted humans as of today could possibly muster. As for these early humans having such raw intelligence for their surviving, it seems they had often recorded in stone or via cave paintings as to whatever was of keen interest, or simply taking proper notice of whatever else was shock and awe worthy about their extensively snow and icy covered era (especially if going by those crystal clear nighttimes), that was thawing out and subsequently flooding most everything in sight for the very last ice-age time. However, apparently as of prior to 12,500 BP or even of somewhat more recent times, there simply was not an era of artistic notations on behalf of depicting anything moon like until some time after 12,500 BP when humans had taken notice of significant ocean tidal issues, of seasonal tilt variations worthy of their having to migrate, and of otherwise absolutely nothing prior as having ever been recorded or otherwise noted as to their environment having that terrifically vibrant moon, as so often from time to time allowing them to see, hunt and gather by winter night, as though nearly as crystal clear as by day except without benefit of any heat influx, whereas you’d think this would be worth some kind of record. It’s almost as though Earth’s ice-age environment was always clouded over, or that such humans were semi-blind as having been surviving within a nearly monoseason w/o moon, whereas there simply are no such graphic accountings as to any extended nighttime of winter, or of those much shorter nighttimes of summer, much less of their ever having noticed tidal issues or having that absolutely impressive moonshine by night to better see and thus hunt, gather and survive by, especially weird if knowing they’d have that vibrant moon to light their way. Seems if they were in fact survival smart enough and so good at having depicted their local environment, as having recording anything that truly mattered, whereas such you’d have to rethink as to why such intelligent and highly survival skilled folks were so otherwise entirely dumbfounded and/or oblivious, as to their having excluded any mention of seasonal changes, ocean tides and of that terrifically big old and extremely bright looking moon of ours, that which at winter/ ice-age times would have been unavoidably made to look extra bright by way of the added 10+ points worth of Earth’s icy and snowy albedo. What if a nearly monoseason Earth and of its somewhat elliptical orbit about our passive sun simply didn’t have that moon as of prior to 12,500 BP? (wouldn’t Earth as a whole be a whole lot colder, unless a second sun became available) Why as of today are such public owned supercomputers and of their highly capable simulations on behalf of running this alternative interpretation of the best available science, as such being continually made so off-limits, as though our best research technology is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? . – Brad Guth Apparently the DARPA mainstream status quo isn't allowed to ponder as to whatever smacked into our moon South Pole, as having created that absolutely horrific though shallow Aitken Basin. Any hope of running off those really good 3D interactive supercomputer simulations is taboo/nondisclosure rated, as though there's something to hide. Same goes for the planet Venus and the Sirius stat/solar system is absolutely off-limits, whereas tidal forces and a good many other laws of physics simply do not apply. Go figure, as to why is JAXA/Selene has been sequestered in the nearest DARPA/NASA space- toilet. . - . Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? > . – Brad Guth Perhaps our spendy public supercomputers are better used for simulating live smut, rather than upon real observed formations and of those likely interactions of planets and icy proto-moons, especially of any such tidal interactions between nearby stars that are still if not forever associated with one another, one of which being an impressive binary star system as having somewhat recently lost 4+ solar mass in addition to having lost its tidal grip on any number of its planets and planetoid/moon like items. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Apparently the DARPA mainstream status quo isn't allowed to ponder as > to whatever smacked into our moon South Pole, as having created that [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? > > . – Brad Guth You ever going to tell us what "recent" means, BradBoi? lmfjao! Giant stars take MILLIONS of years to do that. Saul Levy >impressive binary star system as having somewhat recently lost 4+ >solar mass in addition to having lost its tidal grip on any number of >its planets and planetoid/moon like items. >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin >> [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? > . – Brad Guth let me ask you about what celestial mechanics is at it heart? mathematics is considered the queen of the sciences and she does not deign to relate to reality. but celestial mechanics is a very specialized kind of physics , a shirtsleeves approximation. mathematicians either wreck their ships on that rock or else avoid it like the plague... but it is all about describing the motion of objects. Newton was a twit, but a genius mathematical twit. I would accept being as crazy and religiosity burned as Newton but I am not and I cannot do the kind of mathematical reasoning he could do. he unified physics and mathematics. so well that it took 250 years to determine how he was wrong if at all. but he offered problems related to your thesis of a interloper moon. he considered the question of a limits of calculations. Roche looked at the same calculus and noted that beyond a certain radius (having to do with the mass of the primary) the interloper would be shattered. ( this same theory predicts things like Saturn's rings.) it all relates to the question of can a moon approach any significant body and not be shattered? Saturn says no. so the integral of ( c^2 * (2/r -1/a) ) has to do with the curvature of space. a technical Roche limit says there is a joint mass with a distance proportional to that mass the should any TWO masses approach the lesser and even the primary would be broken up. Brad describes the moon like a fractured billiard ball. it is fluid and fragile compared to a billiard ball. at planetary scales asteroids, moons planets and stars are all fluid. and that is why the largest are spherical. all these physical facts specifically indicate the Brad Guth is talking through his hat. josephus  SignatureI go sailing in the summer and look at stars in the winter, "Everybody is ignorant but on different subjects" --Will Rogers Its not what you know that gets you in trouble its what you know that ain so. --josh billings. > >> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > like Saturn's rings.) it all relates to the question of can a moon > approach any significant body and not be shattered? Saturn says no. The planet Jupiter says yes, and even within the Saturn rings are items going bump or lithobraking in the night, so to speak, without their shattering to bits. > so the integral of ( c^2 * (2/r -1/a) ) has to do with the curvature of > space. a technical Roche limit says there is a joint mass with a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > josephus > -- At least my hat that's covering my bald-spot is sticking within the regular orbital, mutual tidal radius and lithobraking laws of physics, such as the Sirius star/solar system having somewhat recently lost 4+ solar mass, and also why this conjecture or theory of mine is a bit more than complex enough to require a fairly impressive supercomputer set of simulations that you and others of your DARPA kind refuse to run. I noticed that you also haven't bothered to introduce any alternative notions as viable for having generated the South Pole Aitken basin. Is there a good reason for this? Sadly, yours and this following has been a fairly typical and thus counter-productive reply to my topic: > > He's going to claim the Moon only recently went into Earth orbit - a > > few thousand years ago, no doubt brought here by aliens. :-) > > So, then, the Moon was an alien nuclear waste dumping ground? That's actually entirely possible, especially since it's so gamma producing like no other moon, planet or even that of our sun. An icy proto-moon is also providing a darn good interstellar craft, as well as nicely thermal insulated and otherwise ideally shielded from cosmic and local gamma. Must also be the reason(s) why most everything of JAXA/Selene has become so unusually taboo/nondisclosure rated. BTW, the 2e20 N/sec worth of holding onto our moon is always twice as tidal force worthy as our sun. If that mutual tidal force of 2e20 N/ sec were converted into hourly energy, it's absolutely impressive as all get out, even if only 0.0001% of that force-->energy becomes worthy of global warming. If our trusty moon were to be relocated out to Earth's L1, and interactively kept there for obtaining roughly 3+% worth of solar isolation, as such we'd still have half the amount of tidal action to deal with. Because that relocated moon always being in alignment with our sun, those ocean tides would never change amplitude or their 24 hour cycle. If the moon were somehow to be eliminated, we'd still have roughly a third the tidal action, but at least our badly polluted environment would then be having a singular 24 hour tidal cycle that was always as regular as high noon, and lowest tides as regular as midnight, as well as Earth would be getting extremely cold from the inside out. Those supercomputer simulations would have easily proven all of this out, but sadly they are taboo/nondisclosure or simply DARPA need-to-know rated. It seems them nifty Google-Groups gold stars are no longer working, at least not for me. One of my lose cannons must have nailed their DARPA status quo (upsetting their apple cart or rocking their good ship LOLLIPOP). Of course few if none others were into giving out those gold stars, no matters how interesting the contributed topic or reply. When so much of DARPA/newsgroups are of such silly or intentionally misleading/diversion topics, it’s interesting how the really good topics or replies can’t seem to be given any of them Google-Groups gold stars. I wonder why them DARPA Gods of Usenet/newsgroups are upset enough to banish them gold stars. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >>>> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin [quoted text clipped - 126 lines] > At least my hat that's covering my bald-spot is sticking within the > regular orbital, mutual tidal radius and lithobraking there is that lithobraking again. it does mean anything it implies that stone can spontaneously stop -- which violates not only relativity and Newtonian physics. laws of physics, > such as the Sirius star/solar system having somewhat recently lost 4+ > solar mass, and also why this conjecture or theory of mine is a bit > more than complex enough to require a fairly impressive supercomputer > set of simulations that you and others of your DARPA kind refuse to > run. this simulated refusal to believe BRAD the BOOB? does not suggest that we believe your speculations. > I noticed that you also haven't bothered to introduce any alternative > notions as viable for having generated the South Pole Aitken basin. > Is there a good reason for this? why is an impact crater any more unbelievable than your explanation of billiard ball antics. > Sadly, yours and this following has been a fairly typical and thus > counter-productive reply to my topic: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and local gamma. Must also be the reason(s) why most everything of > JAXA/Selene has become so unusually taboo/nondisclosure rated. just for the record our moon iIS an anomaly. our moon is a positive GIANT. the other moons including moons physically larger than ours are all tiny compared to their primary. our moon is not as dense as our planet. it also does not seem to have a molten core. it may have some iron but it is not molten. and the impact theory does predict that the moon would be made of mostly crustal materials. so you need to provide some verifiable predictions that can be tested -- or you are just blowing in the wind. > BTW, the 2e20 N/sec worth of holding onto our moon is always twice as > tidal force worthy as our sun. If that mutual tidal force of 2e20 N/ > sec were converted into hourly energy, it's absolutely impressive as > all get out, even if only 0.0001% of that force-->energy becomes > worthy of global warming. it has been known since the middle ages that the moon provides energy. the problem is getting the tide to extract that energy. > If our trusty moon were to be relocated out to Earth's L1, and > interactively kept there for obtaining roughly 3+% worth of solar > isolation, as such we'd still have half the amount of tidal action to > deal with. Because that relocated moon always being in alignment with > our sun, those ocean tides would never change amplitude or their 24 > hour cycle. rampant speculaation which ignores the necessary energy to move the 1.7E20kg moon from one orbit to another. > If the moon were somehow to be eliminated, we'd still have roughly a > third the tidal action, but at least our badly polluted environment [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but sadly they are taboo/nondisclosure or simply DARPA need-to-know > rated. If we removed the moon it would not change anything except the size of the tides. > It seems them nifty Google-Groups gold stars are no longer working, at > least not for me. One of my lose cannons must have nailed their DARPA > status quo (upsetting their apple cart or rocking their good ship > LOLLIPOP). Of course few if none others were into giving out those > gold stars, no matters how interesting the contributed topic or reply. > When so much of DARPA/newsgroups are of such silly or intentionally > misleading/diversion topics, it’s interesting how the really good > topics or replies can’t seem to be given any of them Google-Groups > gold stars. I wonder why them DARPA Gods of Usenet/newsgroups are > upset enough to banish them gold stars. I wonder if DARPA fired Brad and that is why he has a hardon for DARPA. > Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth josephus-- I go sailing in the summer and look at stars in the winter, "Everybody is ignorant but on different subjects" --Will Rogers Its not what you know that gets you in trouble its what you know that ain so. --josh billings. Your profound and insurmountable nayism is noted. Your lack of any supercoumpter simulation is also noted. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > >>>> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin [quoted text clipped - 228 lines] > its what you know that ain so. > --josh billings. > Your profound and insurmountable nayism is noted. Your lack of any > supercoumpter simulation is also noted. [quoted text clipped - 163 lines] > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - ... interesting deaf & dumb exchanges, all the more since that alleged attraction is just figment of mad imaginations as well that warped space, output indeed of schizophrenic minds unable to add a speed to another ! ( by ex. that Einstein plagiarist retard & Master of illusion) a) Underlying the crass lunacy (or lunarcy may be ) of that poor sod of Josephus & sundries is the fact all Orogenesis on Earth are resulting from direct Moon Earth hit, the last one leading to the surrection by hydraulic counter reaction of the Andes, Rockies , Canada craton ( yep Niagara falls and all major falls of the world) the Alps, the Himalayas etc ... a mere 11 700 years ago as the Academics frauds supporting present Geology are unable to see b) OF COURSE, the question of what is the motor of Earth Rotation & Earth Revolution, as well of course of all our Solar system's likewise motion + all Planetary Expansion in phase with it, is not considered nor addressed by the Universities mass-produced conditioned minds allegedly claiming being able then with their degenerate present "modern" minds to consider & hence bring answers to such nagging questions. No, this is impossible, since the pretension is that mathematical legerdemains ( as the late Henri Poincaré's E= Mc^2 equation, and claimed amongst others' by again the Einstein thief, attempted to prove ) can lead to a proper understanding, while in fact defining a virtual & impossible fiction with no relation at all to the real world. Only a correct understanding, prior to introducing computing, leads to an intelligence of our environment and hence to the True History of the Earth & our Solar System, with a direct relation of cause to effect whereby the observation of our Relief according to the True Geology ( based both on back engineering and on the UPL or Universal Pressure Law) is the key not only of our past but or our future.... with in our case an irreversible drift towards Mars and the exit hence from the Solar biological range ( accelerated by Global Warming indeed ) with a concomittent consequence to all other planets, as defined by the Titius-Bode law . In this light here a quote from previous answer to Dr Don Findlay, one of the greatest Geologic mind of the Southern Hemisphere indeed, which I consider quite appropriate : QUOTE The main problem is not only that Plate Tectonics theories, as you are demonstrating, are false but as well all the rest... You are addressing through the references to John Dewey & others the issue of the Human mind 's working ! But again these are symptoms but not as yet addressing the real cause. As well the motor of Planetary Expansion with its local case of Earth Expansion is not understood by Carey & sundries, hence the EE understanding although correct will not be accepted by the Establishment. The nagging question of course being that : Is the Western World hooked on the JIC (Judeo-Islamic-Christian ) sects underlying concepts able to understand the True History of Mankind and of the Earth. My answer is NO, and I am certain that only population free from such mental programming as the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans + a few others will be able to make the bound to a True Geology. Just like curing any type of cancer in 3 days flat and relief to brain tumour in a 2 hours is completely beyond the grasp of the present Dizzeaze Industry (DI) for which the Cancer business is the most juicy Cash flow indeed...Do you think as well that Mankind is able to understand & accept indeed that very simple concept which Cosmic Laws impose indeed since eons of time according to which, as I have resumed it succinctly : ALL DIZZEZEZZ ARE DEZERVED !!! Of course not... the dudes prefer to : TAKE FRASER'S WITH CONFIDENCE ! Fraser and sundries comfort the dizzeazed in the fact that their dizeazes are not their own fault ... Not so indeed according to Cosmic Laws. Chastiment is never being administered without reason indeed, ignorance being NO excuse ! The Geology Establishment stands on loose ground at the present time and proves itself an Academic Congregation of Clueles Universities Rabble indeed ( Curtin, Monash, ANU, etc ) ... and so does the Medical Establishment with its drug pushing industry !!! ... but so many unproductive, sterile & indeed parasites live on the system that none of that congregation want things to change indeed Hey ? ENDQUOTE With best regards to all honestly seeking minds Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Bus ph + 33 6 50 17 14 64 Founder of the True Geology ~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~ for background info. http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote: > ... interesting deaf & dumb exchanges, all the more since that alleged > attraction is just figment of mad imaginations as well that warped [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm > http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm Your 11,700 BP encounter and subsequent antipodes seems about right, although that icy proto-moon encounter may have also have had a few near-miss flybys, as well as some secondary icy flack from the actual lithobraking encounter. I'm thinking of multi-teratonne icebergs as raining down on Earth, although too bad there's still no actual science or even physics simulations available as to raw ice coexisting in the vacuum of space while at 1 AU, much less encountering Earth. Our 98.5% fluid Earth and the relatively low mass of the lunar core seems perfectly doable as a survivable encounter, especially if the final encounter velocity was low and if initially there was a good 100+ km worth of salty ice accumulated upon that moon of ours (I'm thinking as much as 262 km worth of salty ice, including a thick fluffy snow layer of regular and perhaps even a little dry-ice). Of whatever impacted our moon in order to create its horrific South Pole Aitken basin, as such had to have been an Earth or at least Mars like object, as well there there having to be a great deal of ice accumulated on that proto-moon, as would be expected if such had been incoming from the interstellar migration away from the Sirius star/ solar system that had recently lost 4+ solar mass. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Isn't it wonderful! Two INSANE FUCKTARDS chatting with each other! lmfjao! Saul Levy >> Jean-Paul Turcaud >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth ... interesting deaf & dumb exchanges, all the more since that alleged attraction is just figment of mad imaginations as well that warped space, output indeed of schizophrenic minds unable to add a speed to another ! ( by ex. that Einstein plagiarist retard & Master of illusion) a) Underlying the crass lunacy (or lunarcy may be ) of that poor sod of Josephus & sundries is the fact all Orogenesis on Earth are resulting from direct Moon Earth hit, the last one leading to the surrection by hydraulic counter reaction of the Andes, Rockies , Canada craton ( yep Niagara falls and all major falls of the world) the Alps, the Himalayas etc ... a mere 11 700 years ago as the Academics frauds supporting present Geology are unable to see b) OF COURSE, the question of what is the motor of Earth Rotation & Earth Revolution, as well of course of all our Solar system's likewise motion + all Planetary Expansion in phase with it, is not considered nor addressed by the Universities mass-produced conditioned minds allegedly claiming being able then with their degenerate present "modern" minds to consider & hence bring answers to such nagging questions. No, this is impossible, since the pretension is that mathematical legerdemains ( as the late Henri Poincaré's E= Mc^2 equation, and claimed amongst others' by again the Einstein thief, attempted to prove ) can lead to a proper understanding, while in fact defining a virtual & impossible fiction with no relation at all to the real world. Only a correct understanding, prior to introducing computing, leads to an intelligence of our environment and hence to the True History of the Earth & our Solar System, with a direct relation of cause to effect whereby the observation of our Relief according to the True Geology ( based both on back engineering and on the UPL or Universal Pressure Law) is the key not only of our past but or our future.... with in our case an irreversible drift towards Mars and the exit hence from the Solar biological range ( accelerated by Global Warming indeed ) with a concomittent consequence to all other planets, as defined by the Titius-Bode law . In this light here a quote from previous answer to Dr Don Findlay, one of the greatest Geologic mind of the Southern Hemisphere indeed, which I consider quite appropriate : QUOTE The main problem is not only that Plate Tectonics theories, as you are demonstrating, are false but as well all the rest... You are addressing through the references to John Dewey & others the issue of the Human mind 's working ! But again these are symptoms but not as yet addressing the real cause. As well the motor of Planetary Expansion with its local case of Earth Expansion is not understood by Carey & sundries, hence the EE understanding although correct will not be accepted by the Establishment. The nagging question of course being that : Is the Western World hooked on the JIC (Judeo-Islamic-Christian ) sects underlying concepts able to understand the True History of Mankind and of the Earth. My answer is NO, and I am certain that only population free from such mental programming as the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans + a few others will be able to make the bound to a True Geology. Just like curing any type of cancer in 3 days flat and relief to brain tumour in a 2 hours is completely beyond the grasp of the present Dizzeaze Industry (DI) for which the Cancer business is the most juicy Cash flow indeed...Do you think as well that Mankind is able to understand & accept indeed that very simple concept which Cosmic Laws impose indeed since eons of time according to which, as I have resumed it succinctly : ALL DIZZEZEZZ ARE DEZERVED !!! Of course not... the dudes prefer to : TAKE FRASER'S WITH CONFIDENCE ! Fraser and sundries comfort the dizzeazed in the fact that their dizeazes are not their own fault ... Not so indeed according to Cosmic Laws. Chastiment is never being administered without reason indeed, ignorance being NO excuse ! The Geology Establishment stands on loose ground at the present time and proves itself an Academic Congregation of Clueles Universities Rabble indeed ( Curtin, Monash, ANU, etc ) ... and so does the Medical Establishment with its drug pushing industry !!! ... but so many unproductive, sterile & indeed parasites live on the system that none of that congregation want things to change indeed Hey ? ENDQUOTE With best regards to all honestly seeking minds Jean-Paul Turcaud Australia Mining Pioneer Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre Mines in the Great Sandy Desert Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant Bus ph + 33 6 50 17 14 64 Founder of the True Geology ~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~ for background info. http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm Your 11,700 BP encounter and subsequent antipodes seems about right, although that icy proto-moon encounter may have also have had a few near-miss flybys, as well as offering some secondary icy flack from the actual lithobraking encounter. I'm thinking of multi-teratonne icebergs as raining down on Earth, although too bad there's still no actual science or even physics simulations available as to raw ice coexisting in the vacuum of space while at 1 AU, much less encountering Earth. Our 98.5% fluid Earth and the relatively low mass of the lunar core seems perfectly doable as a orb survivable encounter, especially if the final encounter velocity was low and if initially there was a good 100+ km worth of salty ice accumulated upon that moon of ours (I'm thinking as much as 262 km worth of salty ice, including a thick fluffy snow layer of regular and perhaps even a little dry-ice). Of whatever impacted our moon in order to create its horrific South Pole Aitken basin, as such had to have been an Earth or at least Mars like object, as well there there having to be a great deal of ice accumulated on that proto-moon, as would be expected if such had been incoming from the interstellar migration away from the Sirius star/ solar system that had recently lost 4+ solar mass. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth On Jun 8, 12:58 am, sir.jpturc...@neuf.fr wrote: > ... interesting deaf & dumb exchanges, all the more since that alleged > attraction is just figment of mad imaginations as well that warped [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > for background info.http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.htmlhttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/in dex.htmlhttp://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.htmlhttp://members.iimetro.com.au /~hubbca/turcaud.htmhttp://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm Pure repeat IDIOT, BradBoi! lmfjao! You already wrote the same sh.t to Turdball! Saul Levy >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >> Jean-Paul Turcaud If you won't define what recently means, then what the f.ck does somewhat recently mean, BradBoi? lmfjao! You mind is totally f.cked! Saul Levy >At least my hat that's covering my bald-spot is sticking within the >regular orbital, mutual tidal radius and lithobraking laws of physics, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Where's all the all-knowing expertise, as to the physical nature of that terrific Aitken basin? Is there something of interest about our binary planetoid/moon that can't be openly discussed without causing hell to freeze over and pigs to fly? (apparently so) Take to mentioning most any kind of a lithobraking encounter is like asking our president and company to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. > > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? > . – Brad Guth - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth In fairly certain concentrations, our moon offers upwards of 1% sodium, making it a very sodium rich environment of roughly 0.1% on average. The likely thick covering of salty ice is also of what helped to protect the moon from its lithobraking encounter with Earth. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > Earthw/omoonis alsomoonw/oSouth Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > is forever sequestered or kept as taboo/nondisclosure rated? > . –BradGuth Newsgroups DARPA wants nothing to do with this topic. Figures, doesn't it. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > radius grip on such planets and spare moons or planetoids. > . – Brad Guth DARPA is now part of the Brownies, BradBoi! lmfjao! All they care about is selling cookies! Saul Levy >Newsgroups DARPA wants nothing to do with this topic. Figures, >doesn't it. > >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > radius grip on such planets and spare moons or planetoids. > . – Brad Guth Seems rather odd this topic hasn't been catching any of the usual local DARPA Zionist/Nazi flack. Perhaps there's nothing published within their DARPA Qur'an, as how their army of brown-nosed Zionist/Nazi types need to deal with such honest notions. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin Replying to yourself is an indication that you are a kook, Guthball. Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen >>> Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > > Replying to yourself is an indication that you are a kook, Guthball. Sucking "ah's" dick is an indication that you are a Queer, Deco. HJ > > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > honest notions. > Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BTW; I don't consider the pervert Art Deco and Saul Levy types as other than Zionist/Nazi puppets doing their best brown-nosed minion thing, and there is nothing lower in human life as we know it. Notice how they always topic/author stalk and divert topics into their incest formulated cesspools of comp.os.os2.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks and alt.fan.art-bell, mostly because they can't honestly deal constructively with the topic. It's Zionist/Nazi puppet clownism at its best, and it's exactly what gave their old boss Hitler far more power, authority and capability than otherwise possible. Millions of Jews (especially of them dark-skinned Yids) needlessly had to suffer and die because of these warlord suck-up rusemasters. They make Hitler look like the good-guy. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > honest notions. > Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BTW; I don't consider the pervert Art Deco and Saul Levy types as other than Zionist/Nazi puppets doing their best brown-nosed minion thing, and there is nothing lower in human life as we know it. Notice how they always topic/author stalk and divert topics into their incest formulated cesspools of comp.os.os2.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks and alt.fan.art-bell, mostly because they can't honestly deal constructively with the topic. It's Zionist/Nazi puppet clownism at its best, and it's exactly what gave their old boss Hitler far more power, authority and capability than otherwise possible. Millions of Jews (especially of them dark-skinned Yids) needlessly had to suffer and die because of these warlord suck-up rusemasters. They make Hitler look like the good-guy. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Art Deco looks up to Hitler and they will be room mates in hell together. HJ On Jun 9, 6:27 am, <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote: > > > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > HJ Hell seems a very Zionist/Nazi kind of warm and fuzzy place. Must be getting a bit pretend-atheist and brown-nosed minion crowded. Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Jews don't believe in hell, BradBoi! lmfjao! Saul Levy >Hell seems a very Zionist/Nazi kind of warm and fuzzy place. Must be >getting a bit pretend-atheist and brown-nosed minion crowded. > >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Same old blah, blah, blah, BradBoi! lmfjao! Want something lower? That's an easy one: WACKO NUTJOB INSANE IDIOTS like YOU and WartPiggy! Everyone knows it now. You can't hide that fact even a tiny bit! That's NICE COMPANY you keep, BradBoi! BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Saul Levy >BTW; I don't consider the pervert Art Deco and Saul Levy types as >other than Zionist/Nazi puppets doing their best brown-nosed minion [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Where's all the all-knowing expertise, as to the physical nature of that absolutely terrific Aitken basin? Is there something of interest about our binary planetoid/moon that can't be openly discussed without causing hell to freeze over and pigs to fly? (apparently so) Take to mentioning most any kind of a lithobraking encounter is like asking our president and company of fellow rusemasters to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. > Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > radius grip on such planets and spare moons or planetoids. > . – Brad Guth - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth An icy proto-moon with its humongous South Pole Aitken Basin crater, that's a good pattern match to our Arctic ocean basin, seems to be getting rather oddly ignored. How about considering some other terrestrial impact sites? Anyone got a good 3D interactive orbital simulator for accommodating such lithobraking encounters? (especially of the thick ice covered kind?) - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Where's all the all-knowing expertise, as to the physical nature of > that absolutely terrific Aitken basin? [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Our moon’s South Pole Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently only 13 km deep (roughly 0.5%), offers a perfectly darn good example of the relatively shallow nature of such a horrific impact, as most likely moderated in crater depth due to the moon’s extremely thick coating of surface ice that existed prior to the lithobraking encounter with Earth. I’d roughly estimated a Guth SWAG of 262 km worth of surface ice, although it certainly could have been packing as much depth as a good 1000 km worth of salty ice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif Of course, Earth too had a relatively thin layer of surface ice, plus likely a 10 bar atmosphere at the time of this icy and lithobraking encounter. Of several other largest of craters are those approximately 10% as impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter, and somewhat equally as unusually shallow. Otherwise, if not having been protected by a thick layer of salty ice, I suppose those unusually shallow and clearly oldest of moon craters are due to the unusually robust crust that is simply a whole lot thicker and more density substantial than most anything of terrestrial crust. In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km by 13 km would also have required an impact with something of considerably larger diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before that moon arrived at encountering Earth. Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type of complex multiple encounter with such an icy proto-moon or icy planetoid that was merging with our solar system after being red-giant phase ejected away from the complex Sirius-A/B star/solar system that had recently burned through 5x worth of solar mass upon converting Sirius-B into that white dwarf (Sirius-A capable of picking up one solar mass, leaves 4x that’s missing in action). Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy of the Sirius star system having lost those 4x solar units of mass, thereby losing it’s tidal radius grip on such planets and spare moons or any number of planetoids. Basically, of what I’m suggesting by way of this topic is; if our icy proto-moon had not encountered something of a Mars or Earth like orb, as such it would not have gotten that shallow South Pole Aitken crater basin, and most likely Earth would not have its seasonal tilt established, or having subsequently thawed out from the very last ice- age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >offers perfectly darn good example relatively shallow nature >horrific most likely moderated extremely thick lithobraking [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >ice- age. >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth So "salt" is coal-black, Brad? Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen Notice how the Zionist/Nazi types of DARPA don't much care for this topic. It's almost as though these subservient rabbi minions of the Zionist dark side can't get enough brown-nosed if they tried. Of their word games and continual topic diversions into their usual cesspool newsgroups is also why they usually rename topics in order to best suit their mainstream status quo agenda. Of course their Hitler did the very same thing, as well has our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush). - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Our moon’s South Pole Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently > only 13 km deep (roughly 0.5%), offers a perfectly darn good example [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth [sci.* groups removed] >Notice how the Zionist/Nazi types of DARPA don't much care for this >topic. It's almost as though these subservient rabbi minions of the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Brad "Guthball" Guth has been especially frothy this month, corresponding to the arrival of the Phoenix lander on Mars. He is already whining about how NASA is not releasing "raw spectrometer numbers" and preventing him from performing his own mis-analyses, and using this is as evidence of Teh Really Big Cabal To Hide Teh TRVTH. As usual, anyone one laughing at his supercomputer-sized delusions are "Zionist/Nazis" and cloaked minions of the G.W. Bush, as well as sockpuppets of Art Deco. His new .sig is also amusing. For this performance, I nominate Bradley Guthball for the Looney Maroon, June 2008. Seconds? >> Our moons South Pole Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently >> only 13 km deep (roughly 0.5%), offers a perfectly darn good example [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. >> - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen > [sci.* groups removed] > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] >>> age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth >>> Brad.Guth BradGuth "I don't think so because, I'm a whole lot smarter and far less bigoted than the average Jew, although smart Jews as having collaborated with your Skull and Bones Third Reich certainly have more of those in-your-face balls than I'd ever have to work with." -- Guthball drools all over my irony meter, in MID: <fea985f50107c84f4d1d4894114d1989.49644@mygate.mailgate.org> Nope, no change. Seconded with glee! 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Message-ID: <b27b0$45ed14a7$46e3a646$6618@COMTECK.COM> To Whom It May Concern: Att'y Michael James Cranston stalker kook, Esq., is a dogfucker and Kook of the Month for March 2007 The God of Odd Statements, Henry Schmidt <popesnarky.godofodd@statements.like.yours.caballista.org> wrote: >> [sci.* groups removed] >> [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > >Nope, no change. Seconded with glee! TY. Guthball has also discovered the joys of kookslurping with Cockbrain, which I forgot to mention. Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen > The God of Odd Statements, Henry Schmidt > <popesnarky.godofodd@statements.like.yours.caballista.org> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > TY. Guthball has also discovered the joys of kookslurping with > Cockbrain, which I forgot to mention. Faggot Deco! I'll second that, AD, but I'm probably too late already. Saul Levy >[sci.* groups removed] > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>> age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. >>> - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA pissed, or what? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Notice how the Zionist/Nazi types of DARPA don't much care for this > topic. It's almost as though these subservient rabbi minions of the [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. > > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one >or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA >pissed, or what? > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Hi, Brad! Your nomination for the prestigious Looney Maroon Award has been seconded. >> Notice how the Zionist/Nazi types of DARPA don't much care for this >> topic. It's almost as though these subservient rabbi minions of the [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >> > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. >> > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen >>Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one >>or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hi, Brad! Your nomination for the prestigious Looney Maroon Award has > been seconded. Eat sh.t, Pedo Deco! > Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one > or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. > > > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth This topic must be another reason why our Google newsgroup "gold stars" are being DARPA sequestered, so as to not draw any further public attention to this or any other topic I've created or having replied to. Notice how there has been next to nothing constructively contributed on behalf of this topic. It's as though their Zionist puppet (Hitler) as chief warlord is somehow still alive and kicking our butts, and that we're otherwise not supposed to know about Christ getting put on that stick by way of his own kind, or about those 100,000 dark-skinned Jews having been irradiated to something worse than death by those white-skinned Jews as having been cloaked and protected by DARPA. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth In article <83f1946b-d944-4945-9b45-c0e0c337b9b7@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > It's as though their Zionist puppet (Hitler) > as chief warlord is somehow still alive and kicking our butts No, the reason you get ignored is that you're a fuckin' loonie. Zionism is the movement to establish a sovereign homeland for Jewish people. Hitler was an anti-Jewish maniac who ordered the deaths of millions of Jews and others. Every time you try to conjoin Hitler and the Nazis with Zionists and Jews, everybody who reads your words (this includes any Jewish person, any Neo-Nazi, and anyone in between: in other words, everybody) thinks, "This guy's a f.cking loonie!" Your Earth-without-Moon fantasy is midly entertaining; your adjective-laden, mathematics-free flights of fancy are good for a luagh now and then; but your continued expression of perhaps the ultimate inappropriate combination of opposites from the last century is cause to conclude you're either gone off the deep end or lost your marbles. And now comes the tirade of accusations that I'm some DARPA gnome. I'm not a gnome. I'm an elf; I'd never work for an organization of gnomes. So go home already. SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. On Jun 17, 10:30 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote: > In article > <83f1946b-d944-4945-9b45-c0e0c337b...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > any Neo-Nazi, and anyone in between: in other words, everybody) thinks, > "This guy's a f.cking loonie!" Got some other physics and science smart faith-based group that made Hitler all he could be, and then some? What powerful religion goes it alone without its puppet government(s) and private sector minions? Seems now you're calling the regular laws of physics and of the best available science as being "a f.cking loonie". Is that something you and DARPA learned from your Third Reich Zionist boot camp? (aka how to mainstream brown-nose) > Your Earth-without-Moon fantasy is midly entertaining; your > adjective-laden, mathematics-free flights of fancy are good for a luagh > now and then; but your continued expression of perhaps the ultimate > inappropriate combination of opposites from the last century is cause to > conclude you're either gone off the deep end or lost your marbles. So, you obviously like all of them bad guys. > And now comes the tirade of accusations that I'm some DARPA gnome. I'm > not a gnome. I'm an elf; I'd never work for an organization of gnomes. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "When you post sewage, don't blame others for > emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. Dear brown-nosed elf, pretend all you like. Unlike yourself, this topic is serious. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Serious? You call THAT serious, BradBoi? lmfjao! No way. Saul Levy >Dear brown-nosed elf, pretend all you like. Unlike yourself, this >topic is serious. > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! INSANE f.cker is what you are! Saul Levy >Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one >or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] >> > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. >> > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top > is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] >>> > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. >>> > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Nice theory, loon. Alas, totally wrong. Lithobraking, my a.s > > Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top > > is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Alas, totally wrong. > Lithobraking, my a.s Is your a.s a supercomputer cache of 3D interactive orbital dynamic simulations? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >> > Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top >> > is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth <grabs remote> Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen >>Is your a.s a supercomputer cache of 3D interactive orbital dynamic >>simulations? >> >>- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > <grabs "ah's" dick> Faggot Deco! Your Pal, HJ > > Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top > > is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Alas, totally wrong. > Lithobraking, my a.s > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message > news:elfa64toj4vb75f305t0s6h0bdorsau6p7@4ax.com... > > Since you're replying to yourself, BradBoi, your statement at the top > > is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL like most of everything else you post! lmfjao! > > INSANE f.cker is what you are! > > Saul Levy > >>Good grief, apparently one of my lose cannon shots managed to hit one > >>or more of them Zionist/Nazi folks in their private parts. Is DARPA > >>pissed, or what? > >>- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > >>> Notice how the Zionist/Nazi types of DARPA don't much care for this > >>> topic. It's almost as though these subservient rabbi minions of the > >>> Zionist dark side can't get enough brown-nosed if they tried. > >>> Of their word games and continual topic diversions into their usual > >>> cesspool newsgroups is also why they usually rename topics in order to > >>> best suit their mainstream status quo agenda. Of course their Hitler > >>> did the very same thing, as well has our resident LLPOF warlord(GW > >>> Bush). > >>> - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > >>> > Our moon's South Pole Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently > >>> > only 13 km deep (roughly 0.5%), offers a perfectly darn good example [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >>> > worth of surface ice, although it certainly could have been packing as > >>> > much depth as a good 1000 km worth of salty ice. > >>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin > >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif > >>> > Of course, Earth too had a relatively thin layer of surface ice, plus > >>> > likely a 10 bar atmosphere at the time of this icy and lithobraking > >>> > encounter. > >>> > Of several other largest of craters are those approximately 10% as > >>> > impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter, and somewhat equally as > >>> > unusually shallow. > >>> > Otherwise, if not having been protected by a thick layer of salty ice, > >>> > I suppose those unusually shallow and clearly oldest of moon craters > >>> > are due to the unusually robust crust that is simply a whole lot > >>> > thicker and more density substantial than most anything of terrestrial > >>> > crust. > >>> > In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km by 13 > >>> > km would also have required an impact with something of considerably > >>> > larger diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before > >>> > that moon arrived at encountering Earth. > >>> > Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type > >>> > of complex multiple encounter with such an icy proto-moon or icy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >>> > Sirius-B into that white dwarf (Sirius-A capable of picking up one > >>> > solar mass, leaves 4x that's missing in action). > >>> > Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been > >>> > deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy of the Sirius > >>> > star system having lost those 4x solar units of mass, thereby losing > >>> > it's tidal radius grip on such planets and spare moons or any number > >>> > of planetoids. > >>> > Basically, of what I'm suggesting by way of this topic is; if our > >>> > icy proto-moon had not encountered something of a Mars or Earth like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >>> > age this Earth w/moon is ever going to see. > >>> > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > Nice theory, loon. > Alas, totally wrong. > Lithobraking, my a.s Earth is a good 98.5% fluid, much like a soccer ball that's fluid filled. Selene has some kind of low density core, possibly fluid. Is your a.s a supercomputer cache of 3D interactive orbital dynamic simulations? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] > > - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth And now the Zionist/Nazi rabbi clowns of the brown-nosed Art Deco kind come out to play. .- BG >> Fagar foamed: >> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >come out to play. >.- BG Hi, Brad! Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen >>> Fagar foamed: >>> [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > Hi, Brad! Hi, Queer Deco! > > > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 159 lines] > come out to play. > .- BG Notice how all the brown-nosed clowns of the Zionist/Nazi DARPA have come out to play. It's exactly as though their puppet Hitler isn't really dead, but instead replaced by a new and improved version (via incest cloning). - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth >> > > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 210 lines] > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Someone had the audacity to laugh at your latest load of pseudoscientific kook screed? Poor, poor Brad. For his endless whining about "DARPA", lack of free supercomputer time, and the "Zionist/Nazi" kookspiricy, I nomination Brad Guth for the Office of Darth Bawl. Seconds? Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen >>> And now the Zionist/Nazi rabbi clowns of the brown-nosed Art Deco >>> kind come out to play. >>> .- BG Should I ever get really bored, I'll count how many times the five kooks most likely to Godwin themselves actually do Godwin themselves in a month and nominate the top two for a Special Ops Cody. Fortunately for both Guthball and AUK, I'm not that bored. >>Notice how all the brown-nosed clowns of the Zionist/Nazi DARPA have >>come out to play. It's exactly as though their puppet Hitler isn't >>really dead, but instead replaced by a new and improved version (via >>incest cloning). >> >>- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth One of these days, Guthball is going to win a Doogie Rant Revisionism award. Lucky for him, this isn't one of those days, or months, for that matter. The competition is too stiff. > Someone had the audacity to laugh at your latest load of > pseudoscientific kook screed? Poor, poor Brad. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Seconds? Sure, I'll second Guthball. It will give the ballot more variety than nominating Kazoo for the office, which I was considering when I made my nomination poast a few minutes ago. Besides, Guthball is likely in better shape than Kazoo, so he'll give LV a better race. She does need the exercise. SignaturePinku-Sensei FNVW of AUK Acting Pollmaster of AFA-B Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in rec.arts.marching.drumcorps http://web.archive.org/web/20070626225733/http://www.caballista.org/auk/ New website under construction "Pinku-Sensei" <pinku-sensei@caballista.org> wrote in message > The competition is as stiff as this Dick I'm about to Suck. You GO gurl (Pinky)! HJ <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in news:vPednZIZr- BrMfvVnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@centurytel.net: > "Pinku-Sensei" <pinku-sensei@caballista.org> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > HJ Honest John, I am enamored by the dogged determination you have shown to present yourself as the gnat circling Art Deco's smelly newsgroup head. Dude, I know these are just longing cries for his attention but pedo lames and post-editing are just so, so........passe'. If you think you're being original by any means, you just go read some of the posts from 15 years ago and see how old school (and still just plain f.cking lame) you're little dreary Usenet jabs are. You are more than just lame, you are an exceedingly repetitive f.ck. Maybe you should consider a hiatus from the newsgroups for awhile, recoup yourself, maybe even complete the English section of that GED you've been trying to finish for the last 10 years or so.You may now prove everything I've said is the complete truth by a homo, pedo or other such lame. You know you want to. Mr Sunshine! ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > <honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in news:vPednZIZr- > BrMfvVnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@centurytel.net: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Honest John, I am enamored by the dogged determination you have shown to > present yourself as the gnat circling Art Deco's smelly newsgroup head. Thank You very much! > Dude, I know these are just longing cries for his attention but pedo lames > and post-editing are just so, so........passe'. It fits the "Master Plan". > You are more than just lame, you are an exceedingly > repetitive f.ck. Thank You, again! Maybe you should consider a hiatus from the newsgroups for > awhile, recoup yourself. NEVER! > .You may now > prove everything I've said is the complete truth by a homo, pedo or other > such lame. You know you want to. Oh No, I wouldn't do that! > Mr Sunshine! Have a nice day! HJ See what I mean. Isn't it pathetic and even below a 5th grade level. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > > > > "Saul Levy" <saulle...@cox.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 164 lines] > > read more » Wow, it's a real DARPA brown-nosed clown party, as Zionist/Nazi worthy as it gets. Why all the mainstream status quo flak? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth > See what I mean. Isn't it pathetic and even below a 5th grade level. > [quoted text clipped - 153 lines] > > read more » >Wow, it's a real DARPA brown-nosed clown party, as Zionist/Nazi worthy >as it gets. Why all the mainstream status quo flak? > >- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth What kind of answers do you get by applying "observationology" to yourself, Brad? >> See what I mean. Isn't it pathetic and even below a 5th grade level. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> > > > > >>- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth Signature"Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen > >Wow, it's a real DARPA brown-nosed clown party, as Zionist/Nazi worthy > >as it gets. Why all the mainstream status quo flak? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > What kind of answers do you get by applying "observationology" to > yourself, Brad? The real question is, if Brad inflicts observationology upon himself, would that be objective, subjective, or subversive? SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com "When you post sewage, don't blame others for emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L. |
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