Space Forum / Astronomy / April 2008

I realize that's exactly what those rich and powerful Jews of your
kind did to other Jews, plus putting down anyone else that made your
puppet warlord happy, but I'm not even the least bit Yiddish, so you
can't even put me on a stick for accomplishing another one of those
faith-based PR stunts.
. - Brad Guth

The guy's an idiot, don't encourage him.

On Mar 8, 4:14 am, cjpol...@aol.com wrote:

? magnetic dust ?  where the hell did you get that from?

Obviously the moon's sootly like surface that's on average nearly dark
as coal should have a composite of iron dust, along with basalt,
titanium, thorium and radium dust, plus obviously it has that
substantial raw element of sodium to work with.

Of being electrostatic charged is not quite the same as being
magnetic, or is it?

Perhaps at night is where some of that electrostatic charged surface
material could become superconducting, because is certainly getting
cold enough to turn the gas of Rn222 into LRn222.

The solar wind that easily reaches to the raw naked surface of that
physically dark moon of ours is what likely creates the bulk of that
electrostatic charge, of perhaps creating several teravolts if one
could measure this energy differential that's existing between the
electrostatic charge of Earth and that of the charged moon along with
the orbital velocity of 1.023 km/s creating yet another charge
potential.

The fact of the moon core being of low density or semi-hollow may also
have some impact on the battery like worth of lunar energy storage
potential.
. - Brad Guth

Hank Kroll is just another honest and extremely hard working guy that
I'm indirectly related to, his having lots of real world expertise in
his favor and willing to share, in that no matters how much collage
the likes of yourself will never muster up to half of what Hank Kroll
has to offer because you and other boxed souls can't seem to
deductively think for yourself.

Of course, unlike yourself and others of your kind, Hank and I do make
our fair share of honest mistakes, and in spite of what certain all-
knowing bigots might like to think, we tend to like most of humanity
even though some are Jewish and many others are not usually Jewish or
as nearly Third Reich polished and/or as pretend-atheistic as
yourself.

In other words, we're a couple of the few good-guys that would never
put one of our own kind on a stick for a faith-based PR stunt.

BTW, since this isn't your topic, why do you keep dropping the
intended cross-posting of "sci.space.history, alt.astronomy,
sci.astro, sci.space.policy, soc.history.what-if" ?
. - Brad Guth

This is interesting... the outside is rock, and the center is water.
What makes that interesting is that rocks sink in water, so the water
should be on the outside, not inside.

Pat

Speaking about what's within ones head (empty or otherwise):
Yes Hagar, there's more of me than your head full of crapolla can
imagine, whereas stipulated by "Painius" you are the reincarnation of
Carl Sagan, wishful thinking your way along as though the laws pf
physics and best available science that's peer replicated to death
doesn't matter, such as Mars not having squat worth of local energy to
work with, but lo and behold it seems you're not alone, because others
of your silly kind are wishing Mars had life, and not even as of all
that long ago, and that somehow the likes of robust and rad-hard Mars
life could still be found and of other imported life from Earth could
somehow coexist if only we could go there (at great public expense) in
person.

Our 'once upon a time' icy proto-moon is not as interpreted by our
faith-based NASA, but as a now humanly lethal place where only the
best of applied technology would give our frail DNA limited access to
that naked environment without our having to pay the ultimate price.

Our usenet contributor "Mitchell Jones" is by all accounts intelligent
and a very honest sorts of investigative research that so desperately
wants to believe that our NASA put folks with all the "right stuff"
onto the moon without hardly a scratch as based upon the undocumented
worth of our fly-by-rocket expertise, that was actually Semitic Third
Reich expertise from get to go.

More Lakes on Mars? / by Mitchell Jones:
***{As I see it, the prevailing practice of valuing social and
political expediency more highly than truth has already, and
irreversibly, done us in. The economies of the advanced nations of the
West have been looted down to the bare walls, and their industrial
capital has been transferred to nations that lack the cultural
heritage of freedom which is necessary to create and maintain such
assets. Ahead lies a hyperinflationary depression, a collapse of the
present global civilization, and a new dark age. During that dark age,
famine and disease will reduce the human population of the Earth by
billions, and most of those remaining will live in squalor and be
unable to read or write. Quaint notions such as science and freedom
will be long since forgotten, and questions such as whether life
exists on other planets will not cross the minds of average persons in
their lifetimes. The reality is that humans preferred spitting on the
truth to reaching for the stars, and so they are going to get the
future they deserve, rather than the future they expect. --MJ}***

Now we are on the same exact set of tracks, realizing that we are
essentially being snookered by those of us having "the right stuff",
and otherwise sufficiently under-educated and/or formally mainstream
disinformed to the point of our being continually dumbfounded past the
point of no return, is what seems entirely status quo.

It's not that pockets of surface liquid couldn't possibly coexist on
Mars, though of fresh water is pretty much out of the question, and
it's nearly as unlikely of those being of a sufficient brine or
mineral composite for having survived under such cold and nearly that
of a vacuum.  Thus far the mineralogy of Mars is sorely lacking in the
remains of common sea salt or be it rock salt, although of other yet
undiscovered salts or possibly even S8(sulphur) may be the norm if
ever liquids are discovered.

***{I'm not a fan of NASA by any stretch of the imagination. I believe
that NASA's managers are petrified by the possibility of life on Mars,
and punish anyone in the organization who interprets the data in a way
that suggests that life there is possible. The idea that there are
locations on Mars that are far enough below "sea level" for lakes of
liquid water to exist scares the hell out of them, because if such
notions caught the attention of the press, there would be a public
outcry in favor of manned missions to Mars. That would trigger another
sh.t fight for "funding" (loot) in congress between NASA and other
parasitic groups (the welfare lobby, the "environmentalist" lobby,
etc.)
any of which can put more bodies on the street than NASA. NASA would
be guaranteed to lose that fight, just as they lost the sh.t fight
after the Apollo program.

Let me elaborate a bit.

After the successful moon landings, the interest of the public turned
elsewhere, and a battle began in congress to divert NASA's funding
back to more "important" uses, such as making sure every wino in a
ditch had enough money in his pocket to buy his next bottle, if he
regained consciousness. With the support of the public having
evaporated, NASA was almost killed in that fight, and the lesson was
not lost on NASA's managers: they know that a big public surge which
enables them to put a mission on Mars will be followed by yet another
loss of public interest and support, followed by a collapse of
funding, and they are not about to go down that path. To them, a bird
in the hand is sufficient. They aren't about to go after, or even
think about, the two--or twenty--birds
that are in the bush.
--Mitchell Jones}***

No need to "elaborate a bit" because, I've been there and done that
one at least a thousand fold in regard to Venus and our Moon,
elaborating as to their faith-based analogy that's cloaked as a
pretend-atheism of their being in denial or otherwise naysay to all
that's off-world, in that they can jump as many fences and thus change
sides of most any given war or argument as it takes.  Apparently, all
that's off-world has to be of inert eye-candy, meaning that for any
number of their carefully chosen reasons is why there's no possibility
of other viable forms of life to behold, much less of any complex
evolved nature, because in their faith-based mindset only Earth is it
for hosting complex life as we know it, and thereby everything else
has to remain as inert eye-candy.

I believe that a sufficiently advanced form of intentionally deployed
life may very well have given Mars a go for the money, so to speak,
however that era would have been quite some time ago when Mars still
had its magnetosphere, perhaps ten fold more atmospheric density and a
planetary core that wasn't nearly frozen solid.

***"In fact, the possibility of color rebalancing coupled with the
known propensity of bureaucrats and politicians to engage in "spin
control" (i.e., lying), casts a pall of suspicion over all of the
photographs retrieved by Mars orbiters/rovers. The prevalence of spin
control means there is no way to be sure that any particular photo
posted on a NASA or ESA website has not been rebalanced to suit the
desires of upper management. In fact, I am quite sure that in any case
where leaving the balance settings at the calibrated levels would
cause a public reaction not desired by management, the photo will be
rebalanced before publication. Fortunately, the mass of photos being
received is enormous, and in many cases the regions on a photo that
might cause an undesired public reaction are a tiny portion of the
whole, hence likely to be overlooked until after publication. That
scenario very much fits the case we are discussing.
--Mitchell Jones}***

Those terribly pastel (aka low spectral DR) color images of the planet
Mercury are another very good example of our NASA's efforts to
continually snooker and dumbfound each and everyone of us.  It's what
they do best, especially if looking at the vast majority of their moon
related Kodak moments that simply do not in any way appear as though
taken from our physically dark moon, much less as unfiltered and oddly
w/o Venus at better than twice the reflective/albedo index of Earth.
So, you are 100% correct that our NASA hasn't been sharing the whole
truth and nothing but the truth, and they continually do this crap
without so much as a speck of remorse or concern for the consequences
of their actions, but then when ever has MI5/CIA shared whole truths
about much of anything.

The deductive science of observationology is worth an honest look-see,
and not just at the likes of whatever official eye-candy pictures have
to offer, but of the 36 look per pixel worth of composite radar
obtained images is also worthy of getting the best attention that our
best expertise can muster, because of what's easily interpreted about
Venus that  isn't limited as to inert matters.
. - Brad Guth

Wow, Lame-ar, you sure told him!

Drivel?  lmao!

Saul Levy

What's with gabi40 ?

Why is there no official Usenet objection to such useless topics, as
infomercial spam or worse?

Usenet damage-control / by Brad Guth
In case some of you nice folks haven't quite noticed the ongoing flak
of whatever's mainstream or bust, outside of my absolutely crappy
local ISP(Centurytel) and Usenet account getting remote trashed on a
fairly regular basis (if you can further imagine, it seems Centurytel
has foiled access to their own 253 area code without ever blocking or
otherwise degrading normal voice/telephone usage) is a pretty neat
system wide outage (as they claim) of their keeping our words off the
internet unless we sign up for their more ENRON spendy DSL services.

Perhaps we should take a little reflective quiet time to fully
appreciate all the recent intellectual and anti-science imposed
gauntlets of this Usenet topic/author stalking and blockage, whereas
instead of the truth we're seeing forced topic stacking of such wordy
disinformation crapolla so that the general public or media doesn't
get an honest wind or otherwise bother to look deep enough into this
mainstream cesspool of Usenet, as to discover what's really going down
the drain.

It's exactly like the cloak and dagger worth of those NASA Apollo
false or dishonest topics having key search words of NASA, Apollo,
moon landing and hoax continually included within each and every one
of those phony postings of obviously bogus topics that also include
naughty smut and porn related context, as clearly intended in order to
cause automatic filtering of what public schools ever get to read, as
well as to divert the honest research intentions of others, by way of
those hidden or cloak and dagger means that essentially wash-out or
force-purge all previous forms of perfectly serious related topics out
of their Google/NOVA archives, and thus getting removed from their
infowar and otherwise mainstream hype configured Usenet, so that only
the mainstream status quo of topics in 100% support of government and
of their faith-based NASA/Apollo side of this issue remains accessible
to the public.

In them good old days of applying this form of government and
theological extremist oversight or merely orchestrated clownism, as
such this tactic was mainstream swarm like accomplished via witch and
book burnings that achieved their form of mainstream damage-control
trickery of that dark-side era, as well as if need be having put those
of their own kind on a stick for yet another shock and awe worth of a
faith-based PR stunt wasn't overlooked.

BTW,  my for-real phone of 253-8576061 and email of bradguth@gmail or
bradguth@yahoo (among others) has always been answered by myself, so
if you're not getting through or you believe that I'm not answering my
phone or otherwise not reading or much less returning your email, it's
simply not the least bit intentionally because of myself, but instead
it's more than likely of those calls or emails of yours have been
getting systematically intercepted, modified and/or diverted by those
in charge, and otherwise skewed by those having the most to lose,
especially if they're not doing their spook and mole like  jobs at
keeping the rest of us supposed village idiots snookered and
dumbfounded past the point of no return.

If this bad situation that's clearly getting worse isn't exactly what
those global domination Zionists and of their puppet Hitler warlord
(aka partner in crimes against humanity) had in mind, as having since
been replaced by our GW Bush and of his born-again faith of brown-
nosed minions, then what the hell is?

Seems via presidential signings and of those DHS powers of God has
entirely excluded all others from taking proper action.  Again, it's
all very Third Reich and otherwise warlord like.
. - Brad Guth

Or that Brad Guth doesn't understand the websites he tries to read.

How many more times are you going to post the same screed, Brad?

I think it's YOUR BRAIN which as hollow spaces, Brad!  lmao!

Mad cow comes to mind!  lmao!

Saul Levy