After decades of searching, scientists have found no trace of extraterrestrial intelligence. Now, some of them hope to make contact by broadcasting messages to the stars. Are we prepared for an answer?
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chatnoir - 23 Dec 2007 04:51 GMT http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2007/12/who_speaks_for_earth.php
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Eric - 23 Dec 2007 08:13 GMT > http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2007/12/who_speaks_for_earth.php > > http://www.twilightzone.org/images/main/intrface/fig_ser1.jpg http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Summer/Giants/Kiel-Co okbook.jpg There is one type of message any alien culture will surely understand. Bring telemarketing and spam to a new level, send them a damn advertisement, you'll never have to worry about them coming here :-)
Painius - 23 Dec 2007 09:55 GMT <subject title> "After decades of searching, scientists have found no trace of extraterrestrial intelligence. Now, some of them hope to make contact by broadcasting messages to the stars. Are we prepared for an answer?" </subject title>
chatnoir wrote:
> http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2007/12/who_speaks_for_earth.php > > http://www.twilightzone.org/images/main/intrface/fig_ser1.jpg People worry too much. There *is* a bright side to all this.
happy holidays and... starry starry nights!
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BradGuth - 23 Dec 2007 13:24 GMT > <subject title> > "After decades of searching, scientists have found [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > People worry too much. There *is* a bright side > to all this. That is correct, as a good spaced based array of laser cannons should be rather bright. - Brad Guth
oldcoot - 23 Dec 2007 15:06 GMT > chatnoir wrote: > > >http://www.twilightzone.org/images/main/intrface/fig_ser1.jpg > > People worry too much. There *is* a bright side > to all this. Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Coneheads_Poster.jpg
Painius - 24 Dec 2007 14:54 GMT > > chatnoir wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Coneheads_Poster.jpg Yeah! SNL, some of the funniest stuff i've ever seen! Dan, Jane and cute, sexy Laraine. MMmm!
Another of my Dan and Jane favorites was when they did the "News". Do you remember? Jane would start out with a brief commentary, and then Dan would articulate, "Jane, you ignorant slut!" and give her an argument. I think it was called "Point - Counterpoint", OSLT.
Laughed my bells off!
At any rate, there is and has been much humor attributed to aliens and outer space. And yet another "bright side"...
Even if the negativity of the doomsayers turns out to be true, we will most likely be brought together as a world to rise up against whatever tyranny those mean old ET's might bring down to us. In the long run, judging by our history and rebellious natures, this could very well be a good thing--a very bright side.
Of course, even Sagan believed that, since we have only been at the hitek stuff for about a hundred years or so, any ET's who come across us will probably seem like super-magicians, and this might make them a liiittle hard to beat.
happy holidays and... starry starry nights!
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P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com
oldcoot - 24 Dec 2007 16:52 GMT > Of course, even Sagan believed that, since we > have only been at the hitek stuff for about a > hundred years or so, any ET's who come across > us will probably seem like super-magicians, and > this might make them a liiittle hard to beat. But OTOH, they might be quite naive of earthling customs. See- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHVvQTlqtPE&feature=related
Painius - 25 Dec 2007 17:08 GMT On Dec 24, 6:54 am, "Painius" <starswirlern...@maol.com> wrote:
> Of course, even Sagan believed that, since we > have only been at the hitek stuff for about a > hundred years or so, any ET's who come across > us will probably seem like super-magicians, and > this might make them a liiittle hard to beat. But OTOH, they might be quite naive of earthling customs. See- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHVvQTlqtPE&feature=related
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This will depend on how badly and how quickly they need what we have that they want. If they're not too pressed for time, they'll probably study us as long as they need to so as to ensure the success of their invasion.
happy holidays and... starry starry nights!
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P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com
Saul Levy - 26 Dec 2007 05:18 GMT Does frootie realize it's an invasion that's coming?
FOC my a.s!
Saul Levy
>This will depend on how badly and how quickly >they need what we have that they want. If they're [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >happy holidays and... > starry starry nights! chatnoir - 25 Dec 2007 17:00 GMT > > > chatnoir wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > us will probably seem like super-magicians, and > this might make them a liiittle hard to beat. Yes, I beleive it would be essentially over in the first 2 seconds!
> happy holidays and... > starry starry nights! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhhhttp://painellsworth.nethttp://savethechildren.org/http://home.secretsgolden.com BradGuth - 25 Dec 2007 20:54 GMT > > "oldcoot" <oldcoot7...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message... > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Yes, I beleive it would be essentially over in the first 2 seconds! I'll have to go along with us humans lasting all of "the first 2 seconds!" - Brad Guth
Painius - 26 Dec 2007 06:22 GMT >> > > > chatnoir wrote: >> > > > > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > seconds!" > - Brad Guth O sure! the first "battle" (if you could call it that) might last all of two seconds. And it's very highly unlikely that the mean ol' ET's will let all 7 billion of us live on. However, they might need some of us to be their slaves, to do whatever they need us to do that they don't want to do. Whatever Earth has that they want, it will probably be something that has to be grown or mined.
The relative handful of humans who survive will eventually rebel. And rebel, and rebel, until they either win or die.
A win would mean an Earth united, and bound & determined never to be slaves to an ET race ever again!
happy holidays and... starry starry nights!
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P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com
chatnoir - 26 Dec 2007 11:16 GMT > >> > > > chatnoir wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > has that they want, it will probably be something > that has to be grown or mined. And their manufactured drones they brought to do the job?
> The relative handful of humans who survive will > eventually rebel. And rebel, and rebel, until they [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhhhttp://painellsworth.nethttp://savethechildren.org/http://home.secretsgolden.com Painius - 26 Dec 2007 14:51 GMT (Note: response follows second dashed line.) --------------------------------------------------------------- On Dec 25, 11:22 pm, "Painius" <starswirlern...@maol.com> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message... news:ae3483af-46f5-4413-a26c-56fa2148b9d8@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 25, 9:00 am, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> On Dec 24, 7:54 am, "Painius" <starswirlern...@maol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > has that they want, it will probably be something > that has to be grown or mined. And their manufactured drones they brought to do the job? --------------------------------------------------------
If they have drones, then the drones will be free to do other tasks that people cannot do.
However, you are probably correct if you think that all people will be annihilated. Our only chance then would be if the mean ol' ET's overlook a few tiny pockets of people who survive.
happy new-year days and... starry starry nights!
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P.S. Thank you very much!
P.P.S. (shh) Some secret sites... http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org/ http://home.secretsgolden.com
Zyp - 29 Dec 2007 20:19 GMT > (Note: response follows second dashed line.) > --------------------------------------------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > http://savethechildren.org/ > http://home.secretsgolden.com Has anyone considered, that for all intents and purposes, *we* might be the "alien" who invades another's world? *We* might be the one who's "advanced." *We* might be the ones who seem like the "magicians." *We* might be the ones who bring blight and death to another world.
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chatnoir - 29 Dec 2007 20:45 GMT > > (Note: response follows second dashed line.) > > --------------------------------------------------------------- [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > -- > Zyp We will never get out of this Solar System before we destroy ourselves!
Painius - 30 Dec 2007 03:02 GMT > Has anyone considered, that for all intents and purposes, *we* might be > the "alien" who invades another's world? *We* might be the one who's > "advanced." *We* might be the ones who seem like the "magicians." *We* > might be the ones who bring blight and death to another world. Been there, done that, Zyp!
The European invasion of the Americas that began in the 15th century brought much death and suffering to the native peoples of North America. Spanish and Portuguese explorers brought their infectious diseases like smallpox, typhus, measles and the flu with them. These decimated the native populations of South America beginning in the 1530's.
Astronomy's present meticulous concern about sending sterilized equipment to Mars means to me that we have learned some good lessons.
happy new-year days and... starry starry nights!
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P.S. Thank YOU for reading!
P.P.S. (shh) Some secret sites... http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org http://home.secretsgolden.com
Zyp - 31 Dec 2007 01:48 GMT >> Has anyone considered, that for all intents and purposes, *we* might >> be the "alien" who invades another's world? *We* might be the one [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > http://savethechildren.org > http://home.secretsgolden.com What about the satellites we sent past Jupiter and Saturn? Will those someday fall to another world and bring problems for them?
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Painius - 31 Dec 2007 10:43 GMT >>> Has anyone considered, that for all intents and purposes, *we* might >>> be the "alien" who invades another's world? *We* might be the one [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > What about the satellites we sent past Jupiter and Saturn? Will those > someday fall to another world and bring problems for them? I think that this is what some people were hoping for in the beginning, Zyp. Carl Sagan expressed his hope that an advanced race of life would pick up on these probes, intercept them in space, and learn about us. And also the hope is that such an advanced race would be benevolent and generous with their knowledge and wisdom.
Space is an unbelievably vast area, even within our Solar System. Take the asteroid belt as an example. Most people picture this belt as dense with big rocks. If you were to fly through it in your spiffy spaceship, you would have to artfully dodge all these rocks. Fact is, if you were to come upon one of these asteroids in the belt, they are so far apart that you probably wouldn't be able to see the next nearest asteroid.
Then when you get beyond the Solar System out into interstellar space, you can go for long, long distances, light years even, without encountering any matter, let alone a Solar System that might contain life. So the chances of our probes falling to another world and causing problems for living things on that world are pretty much nil.
Most likely, if they don't get picked up by advanced beings, they'll probably end up centuries, or maybe thousands of years from now, falling into another great star and being vaporized.
happy new-year days and... starry starry nights!
 Signature Indelibly yours, Paine
P.S. Thank YOU for reading!
P.P.S. (shh) Some secret sites... http://painellsworth.net http://savethechildren.org http://home.secretsgolden.com
Zanthius - 23 Dec 2007 11:36 GMT As I have allready said many times, there are only two types of aliens more intelligent than your species.
Those who don't care a sh.t about your species, and those who wants to replace your inferior system with their own superior system.
Pedro Sanchez, Professional Mexican - 23 Dec 2007 17:32 GMT >As I have allready said many times, there are only two types of aliens >more intelligent than your species. > >Those who don't care a sh.t about your species, and those who wants to >replace your inferior system with their own superior system. You forgot a third race, a race with penis envy and very pissed off about us humans.
BradGuth - 23 Dec 2007 13:21 GMT > http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2007/12/who_speaks_for_earth.php > > http://www.twilightzone.org/images/main/intrface/fig_ser1.jpg > > http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003/Summer/Gia... Most of us as faith-based snookered and having dumbfounded ourselves past the point of no return, as such wouldn't know an ET if being screwed by one. - Brad Guth
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