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G=EMC^2 Glazier - 11 Nov 2007 14:11 GMT Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time before they become a "white dwarf" I used it as the starting chapter of my novel "Stepping Stones" Our Darla uses it as to how they have such a great space ship,so they could leave their expanding star in the nick of time. Reality is it might not be sci-fiction. A space ship in our vast universe might be taking off as I type so that its humankind can be saved because its star will be going red shortly. We have about 4 billion years before our Sun expands. We will have to leave about one million years before,to be safe. We must know also where to go. Bert
Hagar - 12 Nov 2007 14:41 GMT > Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time > before they become a "white dwarf" I used it as the starting chapter [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > million years before,to be safe. We must know also where to go. > Bert So, Beeeert, what are we supposed to do while we wait for that event ? Should we stock up on beer and pretzels ?? What if a nearby GRB cooks us first ??
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 12 Nov 2007 17:06 GMT Hagar(The humble) We will leave on a space ship called "Noah" It will have all the advanced technology of its day. Reality is it will have a tiny pill at a temperature very close to absolute zero that will give ice cold Bud light(with a head) instantaneously Its the only way to go on a trip that will last 125 million years at 73% of 'c' Bert
Saul Levy - 12 Nov 2007 18:45 GMT I'll be happy to tell you where to go, BEERTbrain!
Saul Levy
>Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time >before they become a "white dwarf" I used it as the starting chapter [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >million years before,to be safe. We must know also where to go. >Bert G=EMC^2 Glazier - 12 Nov 2007 20:06 GMT Cactus Saul I'm way ahead of you. My funeral is all prepaid. I'm to be pointed face down. I like to see where I'm going,and also get dizzy when moving backwards. Wish I lived in the future space time of the Sun going nova In my novel I was the captain of the great space ship Noah. So at least I was there in my fantasy dream,and in this dream I worked out every detail. Humankind did not evolve out of the Earth. We are the missing link,and came here from a far 2.8 million years ago. Darla was born on arrival Bert
Saul Levy - 13 Nov 2007 19:52 GMT Hoax to Hoax would believe you, BEERTbrain! No one else would...
Saul Levy
>Cactus Saul I'm way ahead of you. My funeral is all prepaid. I'm to be >pointed face down. I like to see where I'm going,and also get dizzy when [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the missing link,and came here from a far 2.8 million years ago. Darla >was born on arrival Bert G=EMC^2 Glazier - 14 Nov 2007 13:59 GMT Cactus Saul Wrote that novel 35 years ago,and had the huge space ship carrying the mammals (such as whales etc) On NOVA yesterday they are coming up with thoughts that the Earth's very large complex animals were intellectually created. Hmmm They stole that from my "Stepping Stones" I was alway ahead of my times. Bert
Saul Levy - 14 Nov 2007 19:27 GMT Intelligent design is pure creationism bullshit, BEERTbrain! Even the courts have so decided...
Saul Levy
>Cactus Saul Wrote that novel 35 years ago,and had the huge space ship >carrying the mammals (such as whales etc) On NOVA yesterday they are >coming up with thoughts that the Earth's very large complex animals were >intellectually created. Hmmm They stole that from my "Stepping Stones" >I was alway ahead of my times. Bert studio - 17 Nov 2007 07:13 GMT > Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time > before they become a "white dwarf" I used it as the starting chapter > of my novel "Stepping Stones" I am also attempting to write a sci-fi book...not having a good science background makes it extremely challenging...I do have some good help though for the science aspects, besides my own research.
I never realized how difficult writing *good* sci-fi could be, but feel compelled to try my best.
My story is a hodge-podge of other themes sub-categories and topics, but with a unique message.
Personally I think Asimov was the God of pure sci-fi writing, but IMHO Carl Sagan wrote the greatest sci-fi story ever with Contact. Just my opinion though. ---- List of themes:
Alien invasion Artificial intelligence Astrobiology Astrosociobiology Biopunk Biorobotics Communalness Cybernetic revolt Cyberspace Cyborg Edisonade Extraterrestrial life Hollow earth Hyperspace Immortality Multiverse Parallel universe Planes of existence Planetary romance Posthumanism Retro-futurism Robots Science fiction sitcom Science tales Shapeshifting in fiction Sword and planet Synthetic biology Time travel Transhumanism Utopian and dystopian Voyages Extraordinaires Wetware computer World government Xenofiction
Painius - 17 Nov 2007 11:14 GMT >> Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time >> before they become a "white dwarf" I used it as the starting chapter [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > World government > Xenofiction Isaac Asimov once noted that the reason it is so hard to write science fiction is because no matter how "far out" your story is, it still has to at least sound believable, credible.
He said that science, truth and reality are not so encumbered or restricted. Truth does not have to be believable to be true.
happy days and... starry starry nights!
 Signature Indelibly yours, Paine
P.S. Here are some secret sites... shh http://www.painellsworth.net http://www.savethechildren.org/ http://www.secretsgolden.com
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 13:34 GMT Panius Asminov had a short story about a computer that searched for just one answer,as to how the universe was created After being in space picking up evidence for about 6 billion years it finally had the answer Do you not what its answer was? Bert. .
Painius - 17 Nov 2007 19:34 GMT > Panius Asminov had a short story about a computer that searched for > just one answer,as to how the universe was created After being in space > picking up evidence for about 6 billion years it finally had the answer > Do you not what its answer was? Bert. OOOooo, great setup Bert! As you may remember from a few moes ago, i posted an answer to Mz. V. when she asked about really cool planetariums. I had visited the one in Denver several years back, and it was hosting its rendition of Asimov's great and awesome story titled...
_The Last Question_
The story takes you through several generation jumps from present day until thousands of years in the future. Each time, someone ends up being curious about "entropy", the gradual dissipation of energy in the Universe. So they ask the smart computer of their age if there is any possible way to stop entropy, and each time the machine thinks and thinks and thinks, and then it finally comes back with the response...
"Insufficient data for meaningful answer."
Then, in the final stage, there are two entities in the Universe, and together these two entities take up all the space in the Universe. They are so big and use so much energy that the stars are blinking out one by one more and more quickly. One of these entities is "Life" and the other is "Computer".
Life is getting concerned as it watches the stars fizzle out one by one. So Life asks Computer as it has several times before, "Computer, what can be done about entropy? How can the dissipation of energy be stopped?" And Computer once again thinks and thinks and thinks, and then it finally comes back with the response...
"Insufficient data for meaningful answer."
as it did so many times in the past. Finally, the last of the stars blinks out, and Life ceases to live. But Computer could not yet cease to exist. Out of all the billions of questions it had been asked all through the eons of its existence, Computer had been able to answer each and every question save one--it had never been able to answer the question about entropy. So Computer began to dig and dig and dig through all of the megatons of data it had in its memory, searching and searching for the one answer it had not been able to find.
After a great deal of searching, Computer finally found the answer to the question about entropy, the dissipation of all the energy in the Universe.
(Now, this is where the Denver Planetarium really shined, because all at once three jolting things happened after everything went dark. It stayed totally silent and dark for what seemed like an eternity, and I was'nt even able to see my hand in front of my face, it was so dark. And then--all of a sudden--and all at the exact same moment--)...
1. Brilliant light filled the entire round room of the planetarium, and
2. BAM ! A tremendously loud, thunder-like "BOOM" sent me about three feet out of my seat, and
3. A loud, deep voice exclaimed,
L E T T H E R E B E L I G H T !!!!
It was a show I will never, *never* forget! Nooo one does computer SF like Isaac Asimov, & Nooo one does Asimov like the Denver Planetarium!
happy days and... starry starry nights!
 Signature Indelibly yours, Paine
P.S. Here are some secret sites... shh http://www.painellsworth.net http://www.savethechildren.org/ http://www.secretsgolden.com
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 23:07 GMT Painius My setting it up was easy. What you did was hard. You can really put stuff on paper. I can talk a good story off my head,but writing it out is a different story Bert
Painius - 18 Nov 2007 09:08 GMT > Painius My setting it up was easy. What you did was hard. You can really > put stuff on paper. I can talk a good story off my head,but writing it > out is a different story Bert Thank you, Bert. I'm a little ashamed because i screwed up the ending. The Computer actually said it. So it should go like this...
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After the long dark silence, there was a soft voice, "And the Computer said..."
(And then--all of a sudden--and all at the exact same moment--)...
1. Brilliant light filled the entire round room of the planetarium, and
2. BAM ! A tremendously loud, thunder-like "BOOM" sent me about three feet out of my seat, and
3. A loud, deep voice exclaimed...
L E T T H E R E B E L I G H T !!!!
happy days and... starry starry nights!
 Signature Indelibly yours, Paine
P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh http://www.painellsworth.net http://www.savethechildren.org/ http://www.secretsgolden.com
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 13:27 GMT studio Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe. Treb has given me information on his positive universe that can be helpful. Bert
studio - 17 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT > studio Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe. I thank you, but I already have my outline I'm working from. Keep dreaming though, I enjoy reading your rather unorthodox theories.
Painius wrote:
> Isaac Asimov once noted that the reason it is so hard to write science fiction is because no matter how "far out" your story is, it still has to at least sound believable, credible. <
And I believe that...but I also believe he was just a hell of a writer, blessed with an unrestricted imagination.
Saul Levy - 30 Nov 2007 23:45 GMT Was Einstein a stupid speller like you, BEERTbrain?
It's parallel for the 100th time!
Saul Levy
>studio Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe. >Treb has given me information on his positive universe that can be >helpful. Bert G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT Cactus Saul I dought if anyone spells as bad as me. Still my creative thinking I can match with his. Lived longer,was smarter in the sense I loved the QM theory. In my spacetime I had the great accelerators etc. Bert
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