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G=EMC^2 Glazier - 11 Nov 2007 14:11 GMT
Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time
before they become a "white dwarf"   I used it as the starting chapter
of my novel "Stepping Stones"  Our Darla uses it as to how they have
such a great space ship,so they could leave their expanding star in the
nick of time.  Reality is it might not be sci-fiction. A space ship in
our vast universe might be taking off as I type so that its humankind
can be saved  because its star will be going red shortly.  We have about
4 billion years before our Sun expands.  We will have to leave about one
million years before,to be safe.    We must know also where to go.
Bert
Hagar - 12 Nov 2007 14:41 GMT
> Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time
> before they become a "white dwarf"   I used it as the starting chapter
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> million years before,to be safe.    We must know also where to go.
> Bert

So, Beeeert, what are we supposed to do while we wait for that event ?
Should we stock up on beer and pretzels ?? What if a nearby GRB cooks us
first ??
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 12 Nov 2007 17:06 GMT
Hagar(The humble) We will leave on a space ship called "Noah"   It will
have all the advanced technology of its day.  Reality is it will have a
tiny pill at a temperature very close to absolute zero that will give
ice cold Bud light(with a head)  instantaneously  Its the only way to go
on a trip that will last 125 million years at 73% of 'c'  Bert
Saul Levy - 12 Nov 2007 18:45 GMT
I'll be happy to tell you where to go, BEERTbrain!

Saul Levy

>Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time
>before they become a "white dwarf"   I used it as the starting chapter
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>million years before,to be safe.    We must know also where to go.
>Bert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 12 Nov 2007 20:06 GMT
Cactus Saul  I'm way ahead of you. My funeral is all prepaid. I'm to be
pointed face down. I like to see where I'm going,and also get dizzy when
moving backwards.   Wish I lived in the future space time of the Sun
going nova  In my novel I was the captain of the great space ship Noah.
So at least I was there in my fantasy dream,and in this dream I worked
out every detail.   Humankind did not evolve out of the Earth. We are
the missing link,and came here from a far 2.8 million years ago.  Darla
was born on arrival      Bert
Saul Levy - 13 Nov 2007 19:52 GMT
Hoax to Hoax would believe you, BEERTbrain!  No one else would...

Saul Levy

>Cactus Saul  I'm way ahead of you. My funeral is all prepaid. I'm to be
>pointed face down. I like to see where I'm going,and also get dizzy when
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the missing link,and came here from a far 2.8 million years ago.  Darla
>was born on arrival      Bert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 14 Nov 2007 13:59 GMT
Cactus Saul  Wrote that novel 35 years ago,and had the huge space ship
carrying the mammals (such as whales etc)  On NOVA yesterday they are
coming up with thoughts that the Earth's very large complex animals were
intellectually created. Hmmm They stole that from my "Stepping Stones"
I was alway ahead of my times.   Bert
Saul Levy - 14 Nov 2007 19:27 GMT
Intelligent design is pure creationism bullshit, BEERTbrain!  Even the
courts have so decided...

Saul Levy

>Cactus Saul  Wrote that novel 35 years ago,and had the huge space ship
>carrying the mammals (such as whales etc)  On NOVA yesterday they are
>coming up with thoughts that the Earth's very large complex animals were
>intellectually created. Hmmm They stole that from my "Stepping Stones"
>I was alway ahead of my times.   Bert
studio - 17 Nov 2007 07:13 GMT
> Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time
> before they become a "white dwarf"   I used it as the starting chapter
> of my novel "Stepping Stones"  

I am also attempting to write a sci-fi book...not having a good
science
background makes it extremely challenging...I do have some good help
though for the science aspects, besides my own research.

I never realized how difficult writing *good* sci-fi could be, but
feel
compelled to try my best.

My story is a hodge-podge of other themes sub-categories and topics,
but with a unique message.

Personally I think Asimov was the God of pure sci-fi writing, but IMHO
Carl Sagan wrote the greatest sci-fi story ever with Contact.
Just my opinion though.
----
List of themes:

Alien invasion
Artificial intelligence
Astrobiology
Astrosociobiology
Biopunk
Biorobotics
Communalness
Cybernetic revolt
Cyberspace
Cyborg
Edisonade
Extraterrestrial life
Hollow earth
Hyperspace
Immortality
Multiverse
Parallel universe
Planes of existence
Planetary romance
Posthumanism
Retro-futurism
Robots
Science fiction sitcom
Science tales
Shapeshifting in fiction
Sword and planet
Synthetic biology
Time travel
Transhumanism
Utopian and dystopian
Voyages Extraordinaires
Wetware computer
World government
Xenofiction
Painius - 17 Nov 2007 11:14 GMT
>> Its the Sun going red. Stars that go through a red giant phase. A time
>> before they become a "white dwarf"   I used it as the starting chapter
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> World government
> Xenofiction

Isaac Asimov once noted that the reason it is so
hard to write science fiction is because no matter
how "far out" your story is, it still has to at least
sound believable, credible.

He said that science, truth and reality are not so
encumbered or restricted.  Truth does not have
to be believable to be true.

happy days and...
  starry starry nights!

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P.S. Here are some secret sites... shh
 http://www.painellsworth.net
       http://www.savethechildren.org/
                      http://www.secretsgolden.com

G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 13:34 GMT
Panius  Asminov had a short story about a computer that searched for
just one answer,as to how the universe was created After being in space
picking up evidence for about 6 billion years it finally had the answer
Do you not what its answer was?  Bert.   .
Painius - 17 Nov 2007 19:34 GMT
> Panius  Asminov had a short story about a computer that searched for
> just one answer,as to how the universe was created After being in space
> picking up evidence for about 6 billion years it finally had the answer
> Do you not what its answer was?  Bert.

OOOooo, great setup Bert!  As you may remember
from a few moes ago, i posted an answer to Mz. V.
when she asked about really cool planetariums.  I
had visited the one in Denver several years back,
and it was hosting its rendition of Asimov's great
and awesome story titled...

               _The Last Question_

The story takes you through several generation
jumps from present day until thousands of years
in the future.  Each time, someone ends up being
curious about "entropy", the gradual dissipation
of energy in the Universe.  So they ask the smart
computer of their age if there is any possible way
to stop entropy, and each time the machine thinks
and thinks and thinks, and then it finally comes
back with the response...

   "Insufficient data for meaningful answer."

Then, in the final stage, there are two entities in
the Universe, and together these two entities take
up all the space in the Universe.  They are so big
and use so much energy that the stars are blinking
out one by one more and more quickly.  One of
these entities is "Life" and the other is "Computer".

Life is getting concerned as it watches the stars
fizzle out one by one.  So Life asks Computer as
it has several times before, "Computer, what can
be done about entropy?  How can the dissipation
of energy be stopped?" And Computer once again
thinks and thinks and thinks, and then it finally
comes back with the response...

   "Insufficient data for meaningful answer."

as it did so many times in the past.  Finally, the
last of the stars blinks out, and Life ceases to live.
But Computer could not yet cease to exist.  Out of
all the billions of questions it had been asked all
through the eons of its existence, Computer had
been able to answer each and every question save
one--it had never been able to answer the question
about entropy.  So Computer began to dig and dig
and dig through all of the megatons of data it had
in its memory, searching and searching for the one
answer it had not been able to find.

After a great deal of searching, Computer finally
found the answer to the question about entropy,
the dissipation of all the energy in the Universe.

(Now, this is where the Denver Planetarium really
shined, because all at once three jolting things
happened after everything went dark.  It stayed
totally silent and dark for what seemed like an
eternity, and I was'nt even able to see my hand
in front of my face, it was so dark.  And then--all
of a sudden--and all at the exact same moment--)...

1.  Brilliant light filled the entire round room of
the planetarium, and

2.  BAM !  A tremendously loud, thunder-like
"BOOM" sent me about three feet out of my seat,
and

3.  A loud, deep voice exclaimed,

       L E T   T H E R E   B E   L I G H T !!!!

It was a show I will never, *never* forget!  Nooo
one does computer SF like Isaac Asimov, & Nooo
one does Asimov like the Denver Planetarium!

happy days and...
  starry starry nights!

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Indelibly yours,
Paine

P.S. Here are some secret sites... shh
 http://www.painellsworth.net
       http://www.savethechildren.org/
                      http://www.secretsgolden.com

G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 23:07 GMT
Painius My setting it up was easy. What you did was hard. You can really
put stuff on paper.  I can talk a good story off my head,but writing it
out is a different story    Bert
Painius - 18 Nov 2007 09:08 GMT
> Painius My setting it up was easy. What you did was hard. You can really
> put stuff on paper.  I can talk a good story off my head,but writing it
> out is a different story    Bert

Thank you, Bert.  I'm a little ashamed because i
screwed up the ending.  The Computer actually
said it.  So it should go like this...

    ----------------------------------------

After the long dark silence, there was a soft voice,
"And the Computer said..."

(And then--all of a sudden--and all at the exact
same moment--)...

1.  Brilliant light filled the entire round room of
the planetarium, and

2.  BAM !  A tremendously loud, thunder-like
"BOOM" sent me about three feet out of my seat,
and

3.  A loud, deep voice exclaimed...

       L E T   T H E R E   B E   L I G H T !!!!

happy days and...
  starry starry nights!

Signature

Indelibly yours,
Paine

P.S. Here are some secret sites... shhh
 http://www.painellsworth.net
       http://www.savethechildren.org/
                      http://www.secretsgolden.com

G=EMC^2 Glazier - 17 Nov 2007 13:27 GMT
studio   Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe.
Treb has given me information on his positive universe that can be
helpful.  Bert
studio - 17 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT
> studio   Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe.

I thank you, but I already have my outline I'm working from.
Keep dreaming though, I enjoy reading your rather unorthodox
theories.

Painius wrote:
> Isaac Asimov once noted that the reason it is so
hard to write science fiction is because no matter
how "far out" your story is, it still has to at least
sound believable, credible. <

And I believe that...but I also believe he was just a hell of a
writer,
blessed with an unrestricted imagination.
Saul Levy - 30 Nov 2007 23:45 GMT
Was Einstein a stupid speller like you, BEERTbrain?

It's parallel for the 100th time!

Saul Levy

>studio   Here is a theme for you. Use our universe's parrel universe.
>Treb has given me information on his positive universe that can be
>helpful.  Bert
G=EMC^2 Glazier - 30 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT
Cactus  Saul  I dought if anyone spells as bad as me.   Still my
creative thinking I can match with his.  Lived longer,was smarter in the
sense I loved the QM theory.  In my spacetime I had the great
accelerators etc.  Bert
 
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