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gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 07:37 GMT Copyright means that if profits are made from the duplicates (say by ads), copyright protects the business of those who own copyright. By expecting people to contact Google and remove publicitized (made publically available, private chats or copyrighted) materials, Google is violating privacies and business standards. Google is known to f.ck all there is out there and go for the trillions by humiliating the intelligent and inventing corporate lawyer schemes. But people are not that stupid. However America and the law-infested corrupt federal courts are dumb as hell, and so Google pushes the limits of descencies. See you in court Hitler.
(Google is scanning 15 million books from public libraries and are being sued for mass copyright infringment by 6 major international book publishers in class action representing the book authors' copyrights. Nobody is suing them for the infringement of usenet privacies as no business is involved, but the act is humiliating, their compromized privacy features are humiliating, they take away people's control in chat-related internet activities to run their own lives and privacy, generating serious psychological problems for millions who turned to remove unwanted messages which violated their personal privacy and dignities. Such piracies by Google hold unprecedented torture, and due to the scales of the privacy infringement carry a crimes against humanity resolution)
Archived phone calls by the government...
The world is in a weird aspect in regards to such intrusions to commen sonse.
The government is watching the people.
Imagine the aspects. What happened to the world. The aim is to be in control, whoever you are. Those who take control away from you to run your life take as well your democracy as others chose to run it, and in that sense a dictatorship can born around you, or a sense of living in a prison. You lost your control of your own life. So the first and all ammendments and stuff are violated, or in the rest of the world, your human rights.
Its not just the government. Its the whole society that is corrupt. Take for instance Google and don't forget it. They archive chat, and offer humiliating privacy features. They take away people's abilities to control their own freedom of speech and privacy on the Internet. Google takes all chat (as the government the phone calls, apparently they do) but what's worse, Google profits by sharing it all with everyone, no questions asked. My mother can do a search on me, and find my chats, I was naive that I had privacy around Google.
We are living in a world, where we lost control of our own lives and privacies, the *lowest scum* takes chats if we chat online massively like governments, but we are in a position to trust the USA government not to send unwanted phone calls to my mother (nor to make it accessible to her like Google does).
Its a problem.
Heil Hitler. I mean Heil Google.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 07:42 GMT Someone recently told me online that the US government archives all phone calls. I don't know if its true, probably not, but imagine how much comes out of these prominent net thinkers' ideas. Because then I have Google's a.s in court. In court you need examples for the arguments.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 07:52 GMT Yes people need ability to have control over their lives and privacies online.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 07:55 GMT Google says: no, people don't need that. You come here, and you take the fact that what gets online, stays there. And to some extent one can remove a few chats. Chats which they make it stay there. Like they would do it to the phones to, but they think the Internet is open and unilateral. They think many things. But not human kindnesses, only criminal terroristic infringments on human rights. I am prepared.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 08:35 GMT I, victim of cyber terrorism online, was unable to clear my name, humiliated by humiliating privacy features and humiliating privacy circumstances, am suing Google, but primarily their ideological founders responsible for mass atrocities and human rights violations. I am suing them in favor of jailtime and for closure of Google once and for all in the name of human rights. Human rights.
Just no more.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 08:51 GMT I am not suing them in class action. What they are doing is a) criminal b) they can't do it to me. They can't archive chat, its like letting your mother in your phone calls. Chats are private discussions, though taking place in public, they are just as sacred, and not inviting sponsoring.
The fact that they archive chat is fascist, the fact that they offer humiliating privacy circumstances is crimes of human rights, thus of humanity.
Leaving people in personal psychological dilemmas, they took the chances, and take mine to end their fascist world conquering carrier in the name of humanity, but not class action.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 08:54 GMT typo: and *I* take mine to end their fascist world conquering carrier in the name of humanity, but not class action.
gb6724@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 08:59 GMT Except if I do what I want, and sue these two pigs, then imagine the TV. Larry Page and Sergey Brin sued in person for corrupt business. I don't need a Lewinsky fame in a case where I intend to protect my privacy.
Catch 22.
That's why I hold them guilty for extreme privacy tortures leaving people in privacy dilemmas for life.
gb7648@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 09:11 GMT Therefore the only option I have to preserve my dignity and privacy is to sue Google the company in a private lawsuit. But that's a compromize, a bargain. I go there as a looser. With the eternal humiliation of humanity, with humility against the low scums.
gb7648@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 09:14 GMT Shut.
gb7648@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 09:16 GMT In jail. All of you Googles. All of you. In jail.
That was poetic, a poetic justice.
Rising-Star8471 - 30 May 2006 14:19 GMT OK while I respect privacy,
And I respect freedom of speech,
However..........
If I were a company like Google, I could simply enforce the security responsability that comes from monitoring the data passing through one of my servers. Looking for viruses and whatnot, not to mention I would have bought and maintained, not to metion provided access through said servers to someone like yourself. AND paid the bandwith fees that come with said access.
Privacy..........
>From "Whom" exacty........ You said your mom could do a search and find your chats........
DID your mom do a search and find your chats, or maybe your girl/boyfriend, or you husband, or wife?
So now its Googles fault your homelife sucks.......
If your standing on a street corner and your planning with your friend about robbing the bank across the street, and a cop walks by, waits for you to act, arrests you and says in court that he overheard you on the street and that tipped him off. Is the case thrown out because the cop violated your "privacy"
It does not matter where you go, what you do, where you chat or with whom.........Theres an old saying and it goes like this.
"If you dont want something heard, then dont say it."
Everything that is said here is public........
Now think about the industry.........
I am willing to bet you ANY amount of money that your activities are much more closley monitored thaN you think........ I used to work in the industry, every internet service provider has a "cacheing" server used to speed up access to there customers most activly used webpages.....thats part of the network structor, and your NOT changing it. Without it, load times would be a lot longer than they are.
Bet you didnt think of THAT huh.
Deal with your punishment, and remember, next time dont be stupid and say something you dont want heard.
Rising-Star
gb6724@yahoo.com - 31 May 2006 06:53 GMT > OK while I respect privacy, > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > Rising-Star Its nothing like that.
Someone once said: the US government archives all phone calls. But they don't make them available to mother, that's what Google does with chat, which ****I**** made from home. From home, and along those lines. Google CANNOT touch it, nor Bush. Illegal in the name of humanity.
Rising-Star8471 - 31 May 2006 13:59 GMT > > OK while I respect privacy, > > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > along those lines. Google CANNOT touch it, nor Bush. Illegal > in the name of humanity. OK
In the name of Humanity...........
Bush cannot be touched. I do not agree with it, but LEGALLY, in the UNITED STATES, the commander in chief cannot be held accountable for anything he does in the name of national security. Like I said, I dont agree with it but thats the law. If Bush says he wants to see your email or chat messgages because he thinks your a terrorist, guess what? If the server is on US soil he is and theres nothing that can be done without congress backing you up. Since the Republicans control congress.....good luck with that.
The United States has been wiretapping international telephone cables since the telephone was invented. WW1 and WW2 documenteries state this.
Cellphone. emails, screened for specific words.
Since 9-11 there IS NO privacy in this country that cannot be legally compremised.
Bush 2 has proved that the voting system in America is screwed. His brother bought him the first election by having his state screw up there voting so even after Gore was declared winner bush STILL won.
In the second election there were computers in Ohio registering -x votes.
How can you end up with a negitive amount of votes? Are they ant-votes? and what happens if an anti-vote comes into contact with a vote.
So as you can see, our most SACRED power as a United States citizen is even moot.
Drudge report was saying Jeb Bush(FL govenor that screwed up the first election) may run to continue the Bush Dynasty......
If Google is posting things that are being chatted about on THEIR servers, theres not alot you can do. see
Cartoon for Feb 17, 2006 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060217&mode=classic
If your the guy in the last panel......and you signed up.......guess what
Read the terms of service yourself (and 99% of the world just clicks "i agree" to, which IS legally binding, you did agree to sign up for the GOOGLE service, and they have made it public that they do this), so the legal leg you were standing on just got hit by a truck.
Working with internet service providers in the past I can tell you if you click "I agree" its binding. I could not tell you the number of dial up customers one company had calling in from frequent disconnects. Not one of the read there terms of servcie which clearly stated there was a 4 hour disconnect. Did they get refunds? Hell no. They agreed and then used the service. Unfortunatly, so did you.
The only avenue left for you is to get a laywer and pray to god Google missed something in there terms of service that you can use. They are a BIG company with LOTS of money to hire very EXPENSIVE laywers. They could drag this out for so long that by the time it hits court the internet will be absolite and your point will be moot.
The lesson to be learned here is twofold. The first one is already stated
"if you dont want something said. dont say it"
The second is a little trickier
"If you do not "read" and just click "I agree" to feed the greed, for the app or game you need........."
The be prepared to pay for your short sightedness.............
If you were on my server, then the terms you would have agreed to would have a clause in it saying that "I" lay claim to all data passing through MY server regardless as to where it came from.
Double check and make sure Google doesnt......because if they do.......
Not to metion, they could pack up and move to an island in international waters and then what?
WINMX did it, and with a few minor adjustments it will work regardless as to where you are, AND since there not based in the US, they cannot be touched for copywrite infringment. Only the end-user (you or me) can be charged.
SPAM is illeagle in several states, yet you keep getting it. Why? because it passes through a Korean server that the US has no juristiction over. Therfor, it cannot be stopped except by the end user.
The United States citizen fall into 2 catagories............
ONE the rich
TWO people the rich exploit
Need a tax break? Oh your not rich? That a tax increase for you.........
WELCOME TO AMERICA, ENJOY YOUR STAY. PLEASE HAVE YOUR GREEN CASH (err I mean GREEN CARD READY)
WE ACCEPT ALL MAJOR CREDIT CARDS OR WILL ACCEPT PAYMENT IN OIL. NO CHECKS PLEASE.
and we dont take AMERICAN EXPRESS!
gb6724@yahoo.com - 31 May 2006 21:14 GMT > OK > > In the name of Humanity........... How may Drakula help you?
> Bush cannot be touched. If he turns into Hitler... humanity will face ideological agression with diplomatic actions.
> I do not agree with it, but LEGALLY, in the > UNITED STATES, the commander in chief cannot be held accountable for > anything he does in the name of national security. Not by soldiers under his command. Ceausescu was like that in terms of power.
> Like I said, I dont agree with it but thats the law. Bye.
If Bush says he wants to see your
> email or chat messgages because he thinks your a terrorist, guess what? > If the server is on US soil he is and theres nothing that can be done > without congress backing you up. Since the Republicans control > congress.....good luck with that.
> The United States has been wiretapping international telephone cables > since the telephone was invented. WW1 and WW2 documenteries state this. [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > and we dont take AMERICAN EXPRESS!
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