[THERMAL mass transfer]: Gerald L. O'Barr wrote: > -=-
> In <oPtJf.48922$dW3.25797@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>
> >> I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass.
> Tom Roberts wrote: -=-SNiP-=- -=- eV/c^2. -=-
$$ The GUESS iSS test REST mass is, eM/c^2. [Brackets mine.]
> Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr> comments: > -=-
> In SR [& GR], they have changed the meaning of the word, 'mass.'
[Conspiring with SOME economically-associated collaborates, etc.]
> Mass no longer means mass, as it is used in all other
> sciences. In SR [and GR], they today only allow the word
> 'mass' to mean 'rest mass.' Those in SR [and GR] are too weak
> to use mass the way everyone [General Science] else uses this
> word [mass].
-=-
> So a photon, never being at rest, still has to have
> mass, as it is defined in all other [GENERAL] sciences.
> And a photon will always have such mass, since it is always
> moving. Therefore, a photon is a real particle of mass, as
> others [General Science] would say it.
>
> g...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> But do we know the amount of energy a single
> >>photon can produce [as ABSORBED] and then use E=mc^2
> >>thus [EQUiVALENT] m = E/c^2 [as ABSORBED mass.] -=-
$$ THERMAL mass transfer (Radiation light).
$$ A photon EMiTTED with energy h*f, subs ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ A photon ABSORBED with energy h*f adds ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ Think of this as you would poking MARBLEs through tube.
$$ [So ONE's Loss Marble is ANOTHER's gain, by increment].
$$ Fridge magnet = suction cup equation, next.
$$ Think of a Regrigerator Magnet as a Fridge Suction Cup.
$$ Each must do WORK in OVERcoming friction, or FALL down.
$$ Refrigerator Magnet = Fridge Suction Cups of Trembling.
$$ Hope this helps, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).
> Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: -=-
> >E single photon has energy E=hv, where h is Planck's constant,
> >and v is the frequency [as MEASURED] of the [says Tom] source.
-=- < < <deletes> > > Thanks for reading.
> Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@yahoo.com > Remove three dots
Re: is there a "theoretical" mass for a photon ???
Re: THERMAL mass transfer. End of POST.
brian a m stuckless - 27 Feb 2006 08:51 GMT
$$ Thermal mass transfer.
> >> I know they say a photon **doesn't** have a [REST] mass.
> Tom Roberts wrote: -=-SNiP-=- -=- eV/c^2. -=-
$$ The GUESS iSS test REST mass is, eM/c^2.
> In SR [& GR], they have changed the meaning of the word, 'mass.'
$$ Conspiring with SOME economically-associated collaborates, etc.
> [The GR] Mass no longer means mass, as it is used in all other
> sciences. In SR [and also GR], they today only allow the word
> 'mass' to mean 'rest mass.' Those in SR [and GR] are too weak
> to use mass the way everyone [General Science] else uses this
> word [mass].
-=-
> So a photon, never being at rest, still has to have mass, as
> it [GENERAL mass] is defined in all other [SI General] sciences.
-=-
> Therefore, a photon is a real particle of [GENERAL SI] mass, as
> [General Scientists and many many (Non-GR)] others would say it.
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> >> produce [as ABSORBED by a detector] and then use E=mc^2
> >> thus [the EQUiVALENT mass] m = E/c^2 [as ABSORBED mass.] -=-
$$ THERMAL mass transfer (radiation light).
$$ A photon EMiTTED with energy h*f, subs ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ A photon ABSORBED with energy h*f adds ..h*f/c^2, mass.
$$ Think of this as you would MARBLEs in your GARDEN HOSE.
$$ [ONE's Loss Marble is ANOTHER's gain ..and visa-versa].
$$ Newton's Cradle ..a desktop MODEL of Light Propagation.
$$ Fridge Magnet = Suction Cup equation.
$$ Think of a Regrigerator Magnet as a Fridge Suction Cup.
$$ Each must do WORK in OVERcoming friction, or FALL down.
$$ Refrigerator Magnet = Fridge Suction Cups of Trembling.
$$ Hope this helps, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).
> Tom [He between his error-bars] Roberts wrote: -=-
> > E single photon has energy E=hv, where h is Planck's constant,
> > and v is the frequency [as MEASURED] of the [says Tom] source.
Re: is there a "theoretical" mass for a photon ???
Re: Newton's Cradle THERMAL mass transfer analogy. End of POST.