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Space Forum / Astronomy / November 2005COMPLETELY WRONG AGAIN
No, dear Tom, your math are wrong ! ... and you can't add up either! Sigh ! Take an easier example Ni 28/58 i.e 58 protons + 58 electrons If you do their theorical sum, you come up to 97.144622 x 10^-24 g-m In these conditions the Molecular gramme Ni should weight 6.02 x 10^23 ( Avogadro number ) Then we should have : 97.144622 x 10^-24 x 10^23 x 6.02 = 58.481 grammes But the real value is ...............................55.409 grammes Hence a loss of mass by Cavitation or Achimedian Degravitational effect of 3.072 grammes On the other hand that Molecular gramme of Ni takes an Atomic Spatial Volume of 6.7 cm^3, of which a small part is in spatial energy degravitation due to the presence of Electrons and their orbital movements. Hence is the most interesting part of the demonstration relative to the UPL ( Universal Pressure Law ) We have the right to express then that combination of 58 Protons + 58 Electrons giving a molecular gramme of Nickel, the latest is displacing in 6.7 cm^3 a weight of energy of 3.072 grammes. Which gives incidentally the approached value of the Local density of our Gravitational Gas, that is clearly the Cosmic Energy of our Spatial Terrestrial Gradient, k having a high value.( approx 10^14 ) This Density should be of the order of 500 x k 10E14 grammes /dm^3 or in other words 10 000 000 tonnes per cm ^3 minimum In conclusion the Relativitist Theories have concluded to the Void, while the reality demonstrate that we are living within an Ocean of Energy with a gradient fantastically high With best regards  SignatureJean-Paul Turcaud Exploration Geologist Founder of the True Geology ~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~ "tadchem" <thomas.davidson@dla.mil> a écrit dans le message de news: 1133205341.813914.112610@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... Top posting like a newbie again, Jean-Paul Turcaud wrote: > No, Tom ! > > The proper weight balance of an Atom of Hydrogen for example implies NOT > ADDING THE ELECTRON WEIGHT, BUT SUBTRACTING IT ! <snip> >From http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/classes/astr210/Docs/Constants.pdf (since the NIST site is awkward) Proton mass mp = 1.67262158 × 10^-24 g Electron mass me = 9.10938188 × 10^-28 g Hydrogen mass mH = 1.67353249 × 10^-24 g Do the math: The sum of the masses of the proton and the electron is 1.67353252 x 10^-24 g. The difference between this value and the mass of the hydrogen atom is -3 x 10^-32 g. This is within the experimental uncertainty of the value of the mass of the proton. This difference is about 1/30,000th the mass of the electron. There may be some slight differences were I to use 'official' values from the NIST site, but the qualitative result is the same - the mass of the hydrogen atom is not (measurably) different from the sum of the masses of the proton and the electron. Your assertion is empirically discredited. Tom Davidson Richmond, VA Have you taken into account the 7 extra dimensions involved in the entire matter? Are you French, Jewish and/or over 30? Please predict the next massive earthquake in your reply post. >Take an easier example Ni 28/58 >i.e 58 protons + 58 electrons You don't even know basic chemistry. 58Ni (the most common isotope) has 28 protons, 30 neitrons and 28 electrons and has an atomic mass of 57.9353462 using: Mass of proton : 1,6726 x 10^(-27) kg Mass of neutron: 1,6749 x 10^(-27) kg Mass of electron: 0.00091x10^(-27) kg multiplied by appropriate numbers, added and multiplied by 6.0221415 x 10^23 gives = 58.47817365571 grams Thie difference is the binding energy of the electrons, not some cock'n'bull story about degravitation. See: http://csnwww.in2p3.fr/amdc/masstables/Ame1993/ame93.pdf cheers Bill Turcaud is a troll. DO NOT FEED HIM/HER!!!!!!!! He's highly intelligent, so he'll muck with you and get ewe to resond forever. Ignore him!!! He's a troll. He's the ultimate troll. Ignore him. he hates the waste that Usenet has become due to noncooperators (see the final few chapters of Hofstadter's Metamagical Themas) . He would like to post and have intelelctual discussions but he cant due to phuckwits like Androcles out there. he just a minute just a minute... Dave, the AE35 antenna Pointing System Con-TROLL-er will fal in 72 .......72......72....rosebud.......my peniS itches...... ...... ......cantor.. oNly one way out th one way one way OUT only.... Mr. Colo ,,,,jsc...saic...csc....grumman...... AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Turcaud is a troll. DO NOT FEED HIM/HER!!!!!!!! He's highly > intelligent Turdhard? Highly intelligent? Bhwhahahahahahahaha! My dog is more intelligent than this flea-bitten drunkard. George Did you know that the Poodle is the most intelligent of all dog breeds? Perhaps he fanta-sizes himself as a Poodle. Ron (Turdy) Yates, the noted GOGOlogist of Cincinnati, the crawling toady imbecile beuuulieving in Glaaaciationzzzzzzzzzzz .... and in fact all what was foraged in his little pea size brain ! Are you at long last to enter a PENANCE over the systematic POISONING of adduction water, which you noted RON (TURDY) YATES aka George, have been carrying all you life !! Is it not a fact that besides all those adduction pipes protective additives, you have added FLUORINE* to the drinking water ... you bloody irresponsible CRIMINAL ! Are you not seeing the consequences of it now, through the Hyperactivity of children, unable indeed to learn at school ! I hope you are paying dearly your POISONING CRIMES over personal ailments in you and your descents ! .. ( I believe you are suffering from Kidney diseases, and this serves you right indeed ). * Fluorine was added during the war by Nazi Germany to all adduction systems, to make the people completely passive, submissive, toadyish and beuuuulieving ! (...like in the fraudulous Geology now ? ) SignatureJean-Paul Turcaud Exploration Geologist Founder of the True Geology ~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~ >> Turcaud is a troll. DO NOT FEED HIM/HER!!!!!!!! He's highly >> intelligent [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > George Hi Jean Paul. Boy are your brains scrambled. What have you been sniffing? The name is Don, not Ron. You can't even get that right. You are an absolute 100% bonafide, certifiable lunatic. Have a good day...Don > Hi Jean Paul. Boy are your brains scrambled. What have you been > sniffing? The name is Don, not Ron. You can't even get that right. > You are an absolute 100% bonafide, certifiable lunatic. Have a good > day...Don Naw. They didn't even bother to certify him. It was obvious, so they just sat him down in a padded room next to a person who spends the entire day knitting something that isn't there. Unfortunately, he keeps getting out of his strait jacket at night an posting his drivel on usenet. I wish they'd keep the keyboard locked up at night. George > Turcaud is a troll. Indisputibly. > DO NOT FEED HIM/HER!!!!!!!! Could be a "them". Which would say nothing about which of the potential orifices he/ she/ it/ them wants to fill/ get filled/ sandpaper. > He's highly > intelligent, I've had more intelligent bouts of flatulence. Hell, I've shared elevators with more intelligent bouts of flatulence. > Ignore him!!! He's a troll. He's the ultimate troll. Ignore him ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Agreed, but he's not even a particularly good troll. SignatureAidan Karley FGS Aberdeen, Scotland, Location: 57°10'11" N, 02°08'43" W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233 Binding energy Mr Landy ? ... and for god sake upon what rests that famous binding energy ???? .... on little grabbing magnetic hands ? Please be prepared to a mutation in understanding on the basis of the Universal Pressure Law. ... on the other hand, I have to admit, Mr Landy, that you have some great insight, since that famous Atomic Binding ( alleged ) energy is at the root of the UPL concept ! Congratulations then ! Still, you have to understand that it is a variable tied up to the Local Gradient of Energy, or in other words to our position on the Ecliptic. ... which, as I see you as a most intelligent gentleman, you will immediately assume according to what I imply above, to be an Anisotropic and Anisobaric environment. ... and in this you are correct indeed. Somehow the step has to be made by the best amongst you to a new level of understanding, and conscience of our Real Environment. That step is in the process of being made by special & superior minds like Dr Don Findlay ( PhD Geology ) , Alan ( Metallurgical Engineer) Jo Shaper ( Professor of Geology ) and Carole Hubbard ( a scientific writer ) The drama of misleading Humanity since 160 years through fraudulous sectarian based ( theological or scientific ) theories, and the consecutive intense psychological nightmare, in which some of the seeking minds have been and are still suffering hell in groping incertitude, has to stop at long last ! We have to pull out of the Oxford imposed Dark Ages, in which Geology finds itself since indeed nearly 2 centuries ... and I am here to help you. SignatureJean-Paul Turcaud Founder of the True Geology ~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~ > >Take an easier example Ni 28/58 >>i.e 58 protons + 58 electrons [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > cheers > Bill > Binding energy Mr Landy ? > ... and for god sake upon what rests that famous binding energy ???? .... on [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > ~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~ Hi All. I will most likely hate myself in the morning for saying this, but I'm sure I will get over it after my first cup of coffee. Jean Paul reminds me of 3-year-old child. When he doesn't get his way he throws a tantrum. For a person who claims to be intelligent he sure has an odd way of showing it. He comes off more like a raving lunatic. This "true geology" thing is really something else. I'm not sure what it is and I'm not sure he knows either. To me it is more likely something he dreamed up to get peoples attention. Heck he doesn't have to do that. His little temper tantrums do just fine. For someone who wants to prove his point he sure isn't going to do it at the rate he is going. Jean Paul. Before you attack me I feel that I must warn you that a click of mouse will delete you. If you have something to say be civil, or don't say anything at all. Of course I know that for you that will be impossible. Have a good day. Don > > >Take an easier example Ni 28/58 > >>i.e 58 protons + 58 electrons [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > cheers > > Bill |
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