Space Forum / Astronomy / December 2008

SUrely not!

The chief defect of Ayn Rand was that she had both
a very silly surname and a very silly given name.

-- w.f. Chatterton Taylor

She was a pretty feisty writer, I'm sure her sex was
quite vigorous and exciting.

Do you instead have a problem with her gender?

Phil

This claim you call a "fact" is not so easy for me to see.

Also, you're implying that if "no woman has ever
written anything of interest philosophically"
then no woman can ever write anything of interest
philosophically.

Worse still, by tacking on the conjunction "and that
includes her" at the end of your remarks there, you're
assuming what you're trying to prove -- a move that
marks you as not "of interest philosophically."

Hmm.  You say "all should agree," implying that
you will "not tolerate any dissent" to your remarks.

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"ayn rand" is one modern manifestation of "capitalism's" bullshit and
it is why high IQ men (the non- milquetoast ones) are in the mess
they're in.

Capitalism is accurate economic analysis --"[modern society is the
comfortable, ultimately liberal, machine it is because of
entrepenurial focus replacing --for lack of term-- barbarian war as
the method of status aquiring]" -- but it is horrible
political party platform (especially in a 'two party' system).

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"No government" schpiel is fundamentally impossible. And --
importantly-- it
scares the masses into the hands of demagogue bait-and-switch liars.
...Big tent, strange bedfellows masses-- all being duped under a
protectionism which has done nothing but give females, fools and
ethnics ever more hypocritically applied "rights".
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Liberals say capitalism is the reason people live in refrigerator
boxes. Being idiots and children genetically, they are half right:
Capitalism is the reason the nut living in the refrigerator box is
still alive at all --in a nice cushy refrigerator box; this is
otherwise called 'trickle down'. In pre barbarian-war, pre
'comfortable sociecties' the crazy failures would be long dead.

Well fed creatures seem to change their levels of aggression and
selfishness, deterministically/systemically. Eg the end of slavery in
the west coincided exactly with the success of the host culture that
outlawed [acute] slavery.

Post barbarian-war (comfortable) society's 'capitalism theory/
analysis' (free market-ism, adam smith-ism, or whatever one calls this
thing from the last few centuries) is side effect of Exploration Age's
winfall.

For the already wealthy, this economic philosophy/analysis is simply
an embraced excuse to legitimize their advantages (often dynastically
inherited); ie they don't care 'bout no 'invisible hand (ending
barbarian-war), trickle down' philosophy --they simply nod in
agreement with economist professors ("greed is good" for it leads to
more 'refrigerator boxes').

Libertarianism is simply hip youthful GOP failed silliness. The fact
it failed to stop "government's" "liberal" snowball (of hypocrisy and
anti high IQ [white] male bigotry) is conveniently not seen by its
advocates and this says something important
about this philosophy and it's devotees.

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Mussolini and his jewish girlfriend were communists as hip youngins.
Mussolini being biodeterministically a certain type simply put teeth
into this 'communism' as an ineviable side effect of the way he was
laying dego dick into his artsy girlfriend. Together their innate
sexual expression built fascism.

This thing --fascism-- was deemed capable of stopping democracy/
communism (democracy/communism = idiot-opia / milqetoast-opia, filled
with dangerous to high IQ _men_ sanctimonious _hypocrits_ in EVERY
CATAGORY). Seeing this threat, the ayn rand wing of the 'diaspora'
simply hyped up "individualism" (another side effect of Exploration
Age --  colonial outback) as a way of keeping the "don't trust
communism" goy from forming coalition with fascism. ...No general in
history who
actually wanted to stop a charging force (like say
"communism" /"liberalism") would advocate his side breaking up into
individuals as the tactic unless he wanted to lose (or the battle was
already lost).

As far as rand's works, I wouldn't waste my energy dissecting most
humans' gribbit noises; I have long since shrugged.

The only important lesson in the whole situation is as stated:

" "No government" schpiel is fundamentally impossible. And --
importantly-- it
scares the masses into the hands of demagogue bait-and-switch liars.
...Big tent, strange bedfellows masses-- all being duped under a
protectionism which has done nothing but give females, fools and
ethnics ever more hypocritically applied "rights".

Proof is in the puddin, for over a century now at least."

In message
<588dda68-73e1-4d34-a186-fba171577de2@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc@yahoo.com> writes

...was her propensity to provoke off-topic posting. Followups set.

I assumed this would be a cautionary tale, adapted from Hillaire
Belloc's poem [ http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiHENRYKNG.html ]

The Chief Defect of Henry King
 Was chewing little bits of string.
At last he swallowed some that tied
 Itself in ugly Knots inside.
Physicians of the utmost fame
 Were called at once; but when they came
They answered, as they took their Fees,
 `There is no Cure for this Disease.
Henry will very soon be dead.'
 His Parents stood about his bed
Lamenting his Untimely Death,
 When Henry with his Latest Breath,
Cried - `Oh, my Friends, be warned by me,
 That Breakfast, Dinner, Lunch, and Tea
Are all the Human Frame requires . . .'
 With that, the Wretched Child expires.

Seems to me being dead would be a significant defect.