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Joe - 21 Jul 2008 21:00 GMT
Just noticed in the latest Scientific American a 2 page advertisement for a
book, "Our Undiscovered Universe" subtitled "Introducing Null Physics". The
book has a web site at www.ourundiscovereduniverse.com.

I'm no physicist but from looking at that web site- the subject/concept
looks flakey. That's OK, there's plenty of flakey scientists and non
scientific concepts such as creationism- but they seldom have 2 page
advertisements in  Scientific American- so, what's up with this "new"
physics? Does it have any respect in the scientific community?

Joe
dlzc - 21 Jul 2008 23:33 GMT
> Just noticed in the latest Scientific American a 2 page
> advertisement for a book, "Our Undiscovered Universe"
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> advertisements in  Scientific American- so, what's up
> with this "new" physics?

Somebody looking to make income from half-baked goods.

> Does it have any respect in the scientific community?

No.
http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/69905-null-physics.html
http://skepticsplay.blogspot.com/2008/02/null-physics-non-physics.html
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=94861

David A. Smith
Joe - 22 Jul 2008 13:04 GMT
Thanks for those links- interesting stuff- I notice that the book's author
at least makes an effort to defend himself on one of those forums.

Joe

On Jul 21, 1:00 pm, "Joe" <a...@xyz.com> wrote:
> Just noticed in the latest Scientific American a 2 page
> advertisement for a book, "Our Undiscovered Universe"
> subtitled "Introducing Null Physics". The book has a
> web site at
www.ourundiscovereduniverse.com.

> I'm no physicist but from looking at that web site- the
> subject/concept looks flakey. That's OK, there's
> plenty of flakey scientists and non scientific concepts
> such as creationism- but they seldom have 2 page
> advertisements in Scientific American- so, what's up
> with this "new" physics?

Somebody looking to make income from half-baked goods.

> Does it have any respect in the scientific community?

No.
http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/69905-null-physics.html
http://skepticsplay.blogspot.com/2008/02/null-physics-non-physics.html
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=94861

David A. Smith
dlzc - 22 Jul 2008 15:33 GMT
Dear Joe,

> Thanks for those links- interesting stuff- I notice that
> the book's author at least makes an effort to defend
> himself on one of those forums.

Science is about making "bold" quantitative predictions, then having
your peers attack those predictions.  It comes as a surprise to some
that:
1) someone takes what you say to the next level, and
2) someone actually challenges your claims / methods / assumptions.

A lot of people don't understand that...

David A. Smith
Peter Webb - 25 Jul 2008 13:54 GMT
> Does it have any respect in the scientific community?

Not if they look at the summary page of the "physics" :

http://www.ourundiscovereduniverse.com/ouu_principles.php
Joe - 26 Jul 2008 00:14 GMT
>> Does it have any respect in the scientific community?
>
> Not if they look at the summary page of the "physics" :

That's what I thought---- so it makes you wonder did the author bother? He
couldn't seriously have believed that his work would be exepted. And, if
you're going to write something just for the money I'm sure he could have
found a more popular subject.

Joe

> http://www.ourundiscovereduniverse.com/ouu_principles.php
Androcles - 26 Jul 2008 00:24 GMT
| >> Does it have any respect in the scientific community?
| >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
|
| Joe

What the hell is "exepted"?

Accepted?
Excepted?

Bart Simpson could do better writing his hundred lines on the blackboard.
At least Mr. Burns owns a nuclear power plant even if nobody loves him
but "Dear" Smithers.
 
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