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Tom Ash - 24 Jul 2008 06:09 GMT
The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
observed this
type of inactivity before?  The sunspot count has been flat basically for
many months.  I hope the sun actually skips a sunspot maximum and we have
this for another 12 years or so.  Maybe then we can get some idea what
affect the cycle has on climate.
Sam Wormley - 24 Jul 2008 06:36 GMT
> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this for another 12 years or so.  Maybe then we can get some idea what
> affect the cycle has on climate.

NASA Science News for July 11, 2008
  http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/images/solarcycleupdate/ssn_predict_l_st
rip.gif


The sun is entering its third year of eerie calm. Sunspots are rare and solar flares
simply aren't happening. Is this "solar minimum" lasting longer than it should? A NASA
scientist has examined centuries of sunspot data to find the answer, revealed in today's
story from Science@NASA:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/11jul_solarcycleupdate.htm?list89139

Check out our RSS feed at http://science.nasa.gov/rss.xml!
Tom Ash - 24 Jul 2008 14:38 GMT
It's 3rd year ??  That's just wrong. There was plenty of activity last year
prior to
Octorber roughly. Since then it's been truly calm and devoid of sunspots.

>> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
>> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
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>
> Check out our RSS feed at http://science.nasa.gov/rss.xml!
Sam Wormley - 24 Jul 2008 16:09 GMT
> It's 3rd year ??  That's just wrong. There was plenty of activity last year
> prior to
> Octorber roughly. Since then it's been truly calm and devoid of sunspots.

  Historically it's not wrong...

>>> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
>>> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> Check out our RSS feed at http://science.nasa.gov/rss.xml!
faroutman - 24 Jul 2008 07:58 GMT
> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this for another 12 years or so.  Maybe then we can get some idea what
> affect the cycle has on climate.

hi tom, do you see a corralation with quakes during low activity
cycles, after flares pass we get pounded by quakes. and thier getting
bigger averages> good to see others interrested too.
Sam Wormley - 24 Jul 2008 16:10 GMT
>> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
>> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> cycles, after flares pass we get pounded by quakes. and thier getting
> bigger averages> good to see others interrested too.

  Cite data please.
faroutman - 27 Jul 2008 15:27 GMT
> >> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> >> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>    Cite data please.

go read the time lines at usgs and soho yourself,not going to give 13
years of watching that easy!
Greg Crinklaw - 24 Jul 2008 16:25 GMT
>> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
>> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> cycles, after flares pass we get pounded by quakes. and thier getting
> bigger averages> good to see others interrested too.

Absolute nonsense.  If you want to do real science, like the big boys,
you need to take some care not to see anything you want to in the data.

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To reply take out your eye

faroutman - 27 Jul 2008 15:13 GMT
On Jul 24, 10:25 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> >> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> To reply take out your eye

well i've been watching both daily 6x or more,spaceweather.com&usgs
for about 13 years (AND I SEE A CONECTION)whats you major?your going
to miss stuff if you aint there to see and read I watched the suns
poles flip(pointing it out 2 years before they confirmed it)that was 5
years ago buddy!
Greg Crinklaw - 27 Jul 2008 17:23 GMT
> On Jul 24, 10:25 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> poles flip(pointing it out 2 years before they confirmed it)that was 5
> years ago buddy!

Here's what I think: you are either sad and ignorant or just a troll
pretending to be.  Given that this is usenet I'm betting on the latter.
faroutman - 27 Jul 2008 18:13 GMT
On Jul 27, 11:23 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 10:25 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

gee thanks
faroutman - 27 Jul 2008 15:23 GMT
On Jul 24, 10:25 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> >> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> To reply take out your eye

have you ever heard of cause and effect?one event causes another in
time line!!!!
faroutman - 29 Jul 2008 22:38 GMT
On Jul 24, 10:25 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> >> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> To reply take out your eye

SAM go eat your own words!!
Tom Ash - 24 Jul 2008 16:46 GMT
On Jul 24, 12:09 am, "Tom Ash" <a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this for another 12 years or so. Maybe then we can get some idea what
> affect the cycle has on climate.

hi tom, do you see a corralation with quakes during low activity
cycles, after flares pass we get pounded by quakes. and thier getting
bigger averages> good to see others interrested too.

Either you are a grade school level science type or a dreamer.
Jeeez..I guess the sun is to blame for the economy !!
John Nichols - 24 Jul 2008 20:31 GMT
> On Jul 24, 12:09 am, "Tom Ash" <a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Either you are a grade school level science type or a dreamer.
> Jeeez..I guess the sun is to blame for the economy !!
I know you're being sarcastic, but on a fundamental level, it does provide
the conditions necessary for us lifeforms to have an economy.  :)
P. Edward Murray - 26 Jul 2008 18:30 GMT
The Boulder K index was at 5 a couple of days ago..a Minimum
Geomagnetic Storm level.
So, I wouldn't say the sun is dead just yet!
6EQUJ5 - 26 Jul 2008 18:59 GMT
> The Boulder K index was at 5 a couple of days ago..a Minimum
> Geomagnetic Storm level.
> So, I wouldn't say the sun is dead just yet!

No one said the sun is dead, the OP said sleeping. And I agree whole
hardedly with that idea.
thad@thadlabs.com - 27 Jul 2008 01:11 GMT
> > The Boulder K index was at 5 a couple of days ago..a Minimum
> > Geomagnetic Storm level.
> > So, I wouldn't say the sun is dead just yet!
>
> No one said the sun is dead, the OP said sleeping. And I agree whole
> hardedly with that idea.

Fascinating article in the SF Chronicle earlier this week entitled
"Satellites shed light on borealis' color romp".  See:

<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/25/
MND111UVSM.DTL>
faroutman - 28 Jul 2008 04:46 GMT
On Jul 26, 7:11 pm, "t...@thadlabs.com" <t...@thadlabs.com> wrote:

> > > The Boulder K index was at 5 a couple of days ago..a Minimum
> > > Geomagnetic Storm level.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> <http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/25/
> MND111UVSM.DTL>
faroutman - 31 Jul 2008 04:05 GMT
> Either you are a grade school level science type or a dreamer.
> Jeeez..I guess the sun is to blame for the economy !!

AND WHEN THE WORLD TILTS YOU WILL FALL OFF (YOUR KIND OF THINKING)
were you evan looking at the sun before you got into comp eng ?and how
long?[me and my neibor used and made pin hole reflectors to observe
the solar flares IN 1966 and I suggested blocking the center of image
to see flares CME's!] again whats your major?  ME 40 years of looking
@sun.  think out side the box (your tv monitor). we made parabolic
dish to fry eggs back then to.(you were in diapers ?
faroutman - 31 Jul 2008 04:09 GMT
> The sun is in a time of amazing inactivity that began around last October
> and especially after such an active solar max cycle. Has anyone here
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this for another 12 years or so.  Maybe then we can get some idea what
> affect the cycle has on climate.

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