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Lessons learned tonight (info for newbies)

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Tom Rauschenbach - 30 Mar 2006 03:13 GMT
Since I messed with (and improved, I think) the collimation of my 8 inch
CAT this is the first night of good (3/5 according to the Clear Sky
Clock)seeing.

I was able to find Saturn and see that the Cassini division was visible,
but only intermittently.  I was using a 17mm Orion eyepiece
with a yellow filter and a 2x Barlow.  I could clearly see the shadow of
the planet on the rings.  This was the best demonstration I've had yet of
exactly what "seeing" is and means.  For other newbies, the affect is not
so much like the image is moving in and out of focus, but more like the
difference between different computer monitor resolutions.  At the poor
moments it's not "wrong", but at the better moments, it's *better*.

A look at Aldebaran showed me that the the seeing near the horizon was
much worse than near zenith, and that my collimation still needs
improvement.  Or maybe that my telescope does not hold its collimation
well.  I certainly did not follow the advice that for every screw
tightened during collimation, two must be loosened and vice versa.  I
suspect that the point of that advice is to keep everything snug and help
the scope hold its collimation.  I intend to revisit this.

Removing the yellow filter, revealed (again only intermittantly) slight
glimpses of the sort of features one sees in time exposure photographs of
Saturn, meaning that the planet's disk did not appear to be perfectly a
single color/brightness.  Something was going on there, but nothing like
any photograph I've ever seen.  But since tonight was an exceptional
night, it was also nothing like I've ever seen at the eyepiece.

I'd call it a successful night, and Jupiter won't be up over the trees for
another hour and a half.
RMOLLISE - 30 Mar 2006 13:12 GMT
Or maybe that my telescope does not hold its collimation
> well.  I certainly did not follow the advice that for every screw
> tightened during collimation, two must be loosened and vice versa.  I
> suspect that the point of that advice is to keep everything snug and help
> the scope hold its collimation.  I intend to revisit this.

Hi:

Roger that.

You should always keep your screws snug, or your scope won't have a
prayer of holding collimation. I'm not saying "cranked down super
hard," just "snug." And you don't need to loosen every time you
tighten. Just remember to always collimate by tightening screws. Only
when/if you run out of "travel" should you loosen the opposite screws.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
<http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland/index.htm>

Like SCTs and MCTs?
Check-out sct-user, the mailing list for CAT fanciers:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sct-user>

See: <http://journals.aol.com/rmollise/UncleRodsAstroBlog/>
For Uncle Rod's Astro Blog.
Gil - 30 Mar 2006 16:09 GMT
That's the best description of SCT collimation that I have ever seen.
Keep all the screws snug, when making an adjustment, tighten one screw
(maybe 1/4 turn) and loosen the opposite screw(s).

It's actually easier to use an artificial star in the daytime. If you
look at a solar reflection off of a car chrome bumper a mile or so away
you should be able to get an Airy disk. Might need a moon filter or the
like to dim the image a bit. I used to do it this way and got pretty
good results. The hardest part of this today is finding a car with a
chrome bumper!
Phil Wheeler - 30 Mar 2006 16:22 GMT
> That's the best description of SCT collimation that I have ever seen.
> Keep all the screws snug, when making an adjustment, tighten one screw
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> good results. The hardest part of this today is finding a car with a
> chrome bumper!

And if you do, it will drive away half way through the process,
according to Murphy.
Stephen Paul - 30 Mar 2006 19:12 GMT
> It's actually easier to use an artificial star in the daytime. If you
> look at a solar reflection off of a car chrome bumper a mile or so away

That'd be nice, if I had an open mile. ;-)
 
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