>Anyone know if there is a table or method to determine the _predominate
>wavelength_ emited by a star by spectral class. I would like to add a
>column to the following table showing the predominate wavelength of
>light emitted. For example, the Sun predominately emits yellow light...
How exactly do you define "predominant wavelength"? Does that mean the
wavelength with the peak intensity? If so, you should just be able to
calculate it based on the stellar temperature for each spectral class. A
G0V star, for example, is around 6000K, so its peak output is at 483nm.
If you are talking about color, however, the situation is considerably
more complicated. 483nm is blue-green, but G0V stars appear as a warm
white color. To come up with something approximating a color for these
spectral classes you would need to convolve the blackbody curve with the
spectral response of retinal cells, and then translate that into the
eye's color space (and semi-arbitrarily assign color names).
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Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
canopus56 - 29 Jan 2006 05:47 GMT
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Chris wrote:
> How exactly do you define "predominant wavelength"? Does that mean the
> wavelength with the peak intensity?
Yes, I mean peak intensity.
> If so, you should just be able to
> calculate it based on the stellar temperature for each spectral class. A
> G0V star, for example, is around 6000K, so its peak output is at 483nm.
Any pointers or web page references on who to do this?
Thanks, Canopus56
Chris L Peterson - 29 Jan 2006 05:57 GMT
>Any pointers or web page references on who to do this?
Do a search on "blackbody" and "planck's law" and you should turn up
lots of info. The basic theory can be found at
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PlanckLaw.html .
There are quite a few online calculators. Here are a couple:
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/guidry/java/planck/planck.html
http://lectureonline.cl.msu.edu/~mmp/applist/blackbody/black.htm
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Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
canopus56 - 30 Jan 2006 00:01 GMT
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Chris wrote -
<snip> If you are talking about color, however, the situation is
considerably
> more complicated. 483nm is blue-green, but G0V stars appear as a warm
> white color. To come up with something approximating a color for these
> spectral classes you would need to convolve the blackbody curve with the
> spectral response of retinal cells, and then translate that into the
> eye's color space (and semi-arbitrarily assign color names).
Thanks, Chris. I working in terms of resolution testing using the
Rayleigh criteria. In Chapter 2 of Argyle's _Measuring and Observing
Double Stars_, he has an excellent set of tables of stars with matched
V-band magnitudes by aperature class (binos, 90cm, 8"-10" scopes, etc).
In researching specific Arygle matched doubles, it became apparent
that many of them are not O,B,A stars, but rather G and K stars. Now, I
suppose that I could use my Johnson V filter and do resolution testing
only in V band, but most amateurs do not have that kind of gear.
It seemed to me that having the peak wavelength by spectral class, and
experimenting with Argyle's matched doubles and Rayleigh's critera
would make an enjoyable project during the upcoming warm season.
- Canopus56
P.S. To lukers -
Rayleigh's separation criteria is wavelength dependent, unlike the
Dawes separation criteria, which implicitly is restricted to blue-white
light at around 460nm.
A_rad = (1.22 * lambda_meter) / D_meter
where lambda is the wavelength of observed light, usually expressed in
nanometers. 550nm light is green-yellowish and at the peak response of
the human eye.
Hi canopus56,
> Anyone know if there is a table or method to determine the _predominate
> wavelength_ emited by a star by spectral class. I would like to add a
> column to the following table showing the predominate wavelength of
> light emitted. For example, the Sun predominately emits yellow light.
It depends what you mean by "predominate wavelength". In color
measurement under photopic conditions (i.e. cone vision), one space used
to quantify color includes a "dominant wavelength" parameter, together
with an excitation purity and lightness. The dominant wavelength is
presumed to be the wavelength of the monochrome stimulus which would be
perceived by a human eye as the closest match to the given stimulus. It
is not necessarily the same as the peak wavelength.
These parameters are computed from the tristimulus values for the
radiance, which are determined from its spectrum, and depend also on the
field of view. The dominant wavelength calculation uses chromaticity,
so it does not depend on the lightness, but does require a defined white
point (tricky, for a star). The dominant wavelength can be determined
graphically by plotting the white reference and the test point on a
chromaticity chart. Under tight restrictions, a polynomial can also be
used, but it is valid only in a region very close to conventional white
points (i.e. illuminant C, D65, and so forth).
Note that dominant wavelength has fallen out of favour in colorimetry,
which nowadays uses CIE L*a*b* 1976 and modifications thereof. There is
a brief but informative entry in Wikipedia on dominant wavelength. The
international body setting standards on colorimetry is the CIE, and
publication 15 defines color spaces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_wavelength
http://www.cie.co.at/framepublications.html
http://members.cox.net/astro7/color.html
Best Regards,
John.
P.S. if you're interested in quantification of color, rather than mere
spectral measurement, you might be sliding into a very deep hole...
> CI Spec Color
> -0.33 O5V Blue
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>
> - Canopus56
canopus56 - 30 Jan 2006 00:07 GMT
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> P.S. if you're interested in quantification of color, rather than mere
> spectral measurement, you might be sliding into a very deep hole...
Thanks for the tips, John. Yes, it is _a deep hole_. I have looked
into it before. Fortunately, I'm just interested in spectrometry on
this one. - Canopus56
canopus56 Wrote:
> Anyone know if there is a table or method to determine the _predominate
> wavelength_ emited by a star by spectral class. I would like to add a
> column to the following table showing the predominate wavelength of
> light emitted. For example, the Sun predominately emits yellow light.
>
> - Canopus56
Spectral class + res of photo film - is there an active projects here?
Could try prism before camera as http://home.freeuk.com/m.gavin/300d.ht
Nyteca
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nytecam
canopus56 - 30 Jan 2006 23:56 GMT
<snip>
> Spectral class + res of photo film - is there an active projects here?
> Could try prism before camera as http://home.freeuk.com/m.gavin/300d.htm
Ultra-cool as always, Maurice. - C